This Writing Life

This Writing Life

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This Writing Life episodes

  • Episode 57 - Vendela Vida: Part 2
    Part 2 of Vendela Vida's Writing Life podcast begins with a discussion of performance: parenthood as performance, self as performance, acting as performance. ----more----From here we sashay to:

    • the problems of meditation
  • when are we truest to ourselves?
  • acting and announcing winners at the Academy Awards
  • how parents should praise their children's art works
  • writing and an essential self?
  • writing by hand and how Vida writes her fiction

  • fiction, rhythm and 'top spin'
  • getting lost in life and art
  • Vida's unfinished novels
  • writing in the second person (singular)
  • look in the mirror and say, You can do this...
  • gender and travel
  • Part 3 to follow.

    21 min
  • Episode 56 - Vendela Vida: Part 1
    Vendela Vida is a novelist, editor (of The Believer magazine), screenwriter, literacy advocate (via 826 Valencia). She is also a wife, of the similarly busy writer Dave Eggers, and mother. ----more----Given all these roles, it seems miraculous that she has written one book much less six, including the novels And Now You Can Go, Let the Northern Lights Erase Your Name and The Lovers.


    We met to discuss her newest book, The Diver's Clothes Lie Empty. Set in Casablanca, we follow a young woman on the run from herself. This figurative sense of escape is made real when her backpack is stolen from a hotel lobby, including all the documents that establish her identity. Her subsequent adventures include absurd exchanges with the local place, even more absurd conversations on a film-set, where, almost inevitably, she plays a stand-in for someone else.


    Funny, parenthetical, and quietly moving, The Diver's Clothes Lie Empty is also autobiographical, Vida revealed in this first episode. At a loss where to start I began by asking about the title, a quote from Rumi. We moved onwards to:

    • finding titles in poetry
  • the literary potential of diving
  • our (anonymous) lead character
  • a brief summary of the novel
  • loneliness, travel and identity
  • why Casablanca? 'I went to Casablanca...'
  • how losing a backpack, novel and possessions inspired a novel about losing a backpack...

  • why the New York Times means nothing to Casablanca's police
  • how autobiographical is the novel?
  • the strange power of losing objects, including unfinished novels

  • film crews: why unreality can look more real than reality
  • Part 2 to follow.

    22 min
  • Episode 54 - David Gates: Part 5
    In the final part of David Gates' episode of Writing Life, we begin by exploring the question of religion that we failed to address in Part 4. 'I am not a religious person. I am to some degreee obsessed with it.'

    ----more---- From there we move to:

    • American gospel songs and the transcendent

  • Gates' links to The Mayflower ('he was the first man hanged in the New World')
  • 'It's an interest I have cultivated to make myself interesting'
  • Gates on Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton (from 2015)
  • David Gates' writing life - pen or computer?

  • 'When I am desperate, I will pretty much try anything'
  • Gates on the internet
  • (finally) does music help or hinder?
  • 15 min
  • Episode 53 - David Gates: Part 4
    In the fourth and penultimate part of our podcast with David Gates, we set out by talking about money - how to earn it, keep writing, earn money from writing.

    ----more----Gates recalls his 29 years at Newsweek before shifting to:

    • how long he can write at any one stretch
  • being a relatively late-starter
  • 'There is something quaint and old-fashioned about being a writer'

  • Desolation Row - music vs literature
  • literary critical ambitions: dissertations and elaborate theories
  • Ann Beattie - marriage and inspiration

  • 'I was astonished that she was making literature out of lives like ours...It never occurred to me'
  • working off influence: 'I cannot be Beckett...How can I be me?'
  • Barthelme, Pynchon - postmodernism?
  • Gates and music: 'I can see why you would devote your life to that if you could have that hour of absolutely transcendent beauty'
  • Gates and religion: 'I am so glad you asked about that...'
  • Gates, romance, divorce: 'Do we have trouble with intimacy? Did I sit around thinking too much?'
  • characters and temporariness.
  • The fifth and final part to follow.

    21 min
  • Episode 52 - David Gates: Part 3
    Part 3 of David Gates' conversation with This Writing Life starts with a discussion of 'story' - how Gates writes them and how people tell them (and how Gates writes about people telling them).

    ----more----
    •  is Gates as self-destructive as his characters?

  • 'I am now enacting a wild moment'
  • Virginia Woolf's sly sense of humour
  • Gates other literary obsessions: Barthelme, Wodehouse, Rex Stout (yes, Rex Stout)
  • first person, third person - Gates and narrative
  • 'Banishment': writing from a woman's point of view
  • Gates' (former) shrink on self-portraits in his work
  • 'I like existence. I don't really know what the alternative is'
  • weather, winter and writing
  • Part 4 (of 5) to follow.

    19 min
  • Episode 51 - David Gates: Part 2
    In the (summer delayed) second part of our chat with David Gates, we go on (we can't go) with the influence of Samuel Beckett and Jane Austen.

    ----more----
    • 'What I learned from Austen is that every character in a work thinks he or she is the protagonist'
  • fiction and the drama of conflicting visions
  • Gates, comedy and social combat in Emma

  • closed circuit minds and Gates' characters
  • 'I'm 69. I have calmed down, somewhat. It is not the buzzing anxiety of being in my 20s'
  • 'There is a way in which you always write like yourself'

  • 'There is a lot of sameness there' - Gates' literary riffs
  • Hitchcock, Rebecca, Psycho and Gates' obsession movie trivia
  • literary progression or repetition - Gates v Joyce and the Beatles

  • Back to Beckett - from prose to plays
  • 'I don't know how to say it without sounding pretentious'
  • Target or Tar-jay - jokes and time
  • Part three will be up in less than three months.

    20 min
  • Episode 50 - David Gates: Part 1
    David Gates is a novelist, musician, journalist and teacher. His debut, Jernigan (1991), was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize and was shortlisted for the National Book Award. ----more----Another novel, Preston Falls, followed, along with two story collections. We met in London to discuss the second of these, A Hand Reached Down to Guide Me, and also return to Jernigan, both of which have been published in the United Kingdom by Serpent's Tail. We met at their London offices, beneath a slightly noisy fan, which I have tried to limit in the recording.

    We began by talking about Rhinebeck, the small town in Upstate New York that is the setting for 'Banishment', which opens the new book. 
    From there, we moved to:

    • his idyllic upbringing in Clinton, Connecticut
  • hunting, deer and totaled cars
  • interviews and teaching literature
  • 'I am more comfortable explaining other writers than I am trying to explain myself'
  • which writer made David Gates want to write?

  • 'At high school I wanted to be a writer as opposed to wanting to write'
  • how Gates started to write
  • 'It was a case of wanting to write, and needing to write. God that sounds so pretentious'
  • hate mail, Newsweek and journalism

  • Gates' first, unpublished, novel

  • 'I was a dedicated writer for 11 years before Jernigan was published'
  • 'You don't think there is an element of self-portraiture in these things?'
  • women characters

  • 19 min

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