Thomas W. Jones is the founder and senior partner of a venture capital investment firm, with a long career in corporate America. But when Dave Ross first heard of him, Jones was an armed revolutionary, staging an occupied protest with classmates at Cornell University to demand a black studies curriculum and the resignation of the university president.

So Dave sits down with his fellow Cornell alum to reflect on racial progress in the years since, and discuss what Jones thinks of this new wave of young protesters raging against the system.