Why can doing absolutely nothing feel so uncomfortable?
In this episode, we're talking about our complicated relationships with rest — why we know we need it, why we still feel guilty when we take it, and why sometimes being "productive" feels easier than simply slowing down.
We explore how our identities as women of color, therapists, and moms can shape the way we think about rest and productivity, and Maya challenges Nelly and Morgan to look a little deeper at why they tend to avoid resting in the first place. Because sometimes the question isn't just, "Why can't I rest?" It's also, "What comes up for me when I finally stop?"
Our conversation also takes us into the heaviness of consuming difficult stories in the news, including the Lindsey Clancy case, and the permission we may need to step away — particularly for therapists and people whose own postpartum experiences make certain stories especially difficult to hold.
That leads us to a larger conversation about empathy, listening, and remembering that we don't get to decide someone else's experience for them. Sometimes supporting another person means trusting that they are the expert on what their own life, body, and emotions have felt like.
From rest and productivity to motherhood, avoidance, empathy, and knowing when to unplug, this episode asks us to consider what might happen if we stopped treating rest as something we have to earn.