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In this episode of Beyond the B, co-hosts Ryan Honeyman and Emmy Allison explore the recent decision by Dr. Bronner’s to decertify as a B Corporation. Ryan kicks off the episode with a monologue offering both a generous interpretation of the decision and constructive feedback on how the announcement could have been handled differently.
Then, Emmy and Ryan are joined by Farmer Cee (Clarenda Stanley), CEO of Green Heffa Farms and a leader in the B Corp community. As a Black woman in regenerative agriculture, a small business owner, and the first company to go through the B Lab Level program, Farmer Cee shares her candid reaction to Dr. Bronner’s decision. She discusses the implications for small and historically excluded businesses, the importance of maintaining rigorous yet accessible standards, and the broader impact on the B Corp community.
View the show notes: https://go.lifteconomy.com/blog/dr-bronners-decertifies-as-a-b-corp
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We’ve talked about walking the talk. Starting May 13, 2026, here's an opportunity for you to practice it. Next Economy Leadership is a six-part workshop series for founders, executives, and culture leaders in B Corps and mission-driven organizations who want to close the gap between their values and daily reality. Learn more and register →
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In this episode of Beyond the B, co-hosts Ryan Honeyman and Emmy Allison explore the recent decision by Dr. Bronner’s to decertify as a B Corporation. Ryan kicks off the episode with a monologue offering both a generous interpretation of the decision and constructive feedback on how the announcement could have been handled differently.
Then, Emmy and Ryan are joined by Farmer Cee (Clarenda Stanley), CEO of Green Heffa Farms and a leader in the B Corp community. As a Black woman in regenerative agriculture, a small business owner, and the first company to go through the B Lab Level program, Farmer Cee shares her candid reaction to Dr. Bronner’s decision. She discusses the implications for small and historically excluded businesses, the importance of maintaining rigorous yet accessible standards, and the broader impact on the B Corp community.
View the show notes: https://go.lifteconomy.com/blog/dr-bronners-decertifies-as-a-b-corp
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We’ve talked about walking the talk. Starting May 13, 2026, here's an opportunity for you to practice it. Next Economy Leadership is a six-part workshop series for founders, executives, and culture leaders in B Corps and mission-driven organizations who want to close the gap between their values and daily reality. Learn more and register →

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