Episode notes: In this episode, Jake Treacy, an independent curator and Kiron Robinson, an visual artist and photography lecturer, spoke about their recent experiences of visiting several exhibitions in Melbourne. The exhibitions included 'All of Us' at Blindside, New Objectives at Busproject, 'Utopian Tongues' at SEVENTH gallery, and 'David &: Lou Hubbard, Day Art Group, Eugene Carchesio' at Arcade project Space. Jake shared his insightful thoughts on how an art exhibition could decolonise and deconstruct the conventional 'white cube' and institutional system. For this matter, he talked about his own experiences of working as an independent curator to create inclusive and community relevant exhibitions. Whereas, Kiron shared his questions and thoughts about the ideas about collaboration between visual artists. We joined him and discussed several recent collaborative art works and exhibitions. TWO SPEAKERS:Jake TreacyJake can be followed at Instagram: @jakeadamtreacy Kiron Robinsonwww.kiron-robinson.com/ THE EXHIBITIONS & ARTISTS MENTIONED BY JAKEBlindside : https://www.blindside.org.auEXHIBITION: All of Us, 13-29 Sep 2018https://www.blindside.org.au/all-of-us Jessica Clark, CURATORhttps://www.jessicaamyclark.com Justine Youssef, ARTISThttp://www.antidote.org.au/artists/justine-youssef/ Liam Benson, ARTISThttp://www.liambenson.net Adorned - NSW performance grouphttps://riversideparramatta.com.au/show/adorned-wisdom-memory-and-song/  New objectives. at Busproject by Lee Shan Lunhttps://busprojects.org.au/program/new-objectives Utopian Tongues at Seventh Galleryhttp://seventhgallery.org/project/utopian-tongues/ Tane Andrews, ARTISThttp://www.taneandrews.comWork title: With you beside me comes the knowledge of my death Karen Casey, ARTISThttp://www.karencasey.com.au/projects Teresa Hsieh, ARTISThttp://www.teresahsieh.com ‘Closed to the public’ the collaborative work by Amy Spiers and Catherine Ryan, that I mentionedhttp://www.amyspiers.com.au/portfolio/closed-to-the-public-protecting-space/ Felix Gonzalez-Torres“Untitled’, 1991. The images of pillows on billboards.https://www.moma.org/explore/inside_out/2012/04/04/printout-felix-gonzalez-torres/ THE EXHIBITIONS & ARTISTS MENTIONED BY KIRON Five Wallswww.fivewalls.com.au Arcadeproject.space‘David &: Lou Hubbard, Uday Arts Group, Eugene Carchesio’, 29 August - 15 Septemberhttp://www.arcadeproject.space/david-sequeira/david-lou-hubbard-uday-arts-group-eugene-carchesio/ Sarah Scout Presents‘The Waiting Room’, 15 September to 13 October 2018Kate Daw and Steward Russell https://www.sarahscoutpresents.com/web/the-waiting-room-kate-daw-and-stewart-russell/ THE EXHIBITIONS & ARTISTS SPOKEN BY ME Eugenia Limhttp://www.eugenialim.com/?portfolio=the-australian-ugliness JAKE & KIRON'S UPCOMING PROJECTS Jake and Kiron’s upcoming events:Jake will deliver a speech in Curatorial Intensive at Buxton ContemporaryBuxtoncontemporary.comhttps://pgav.org.au/2018-Curatorial-Intensive~1171 Looking But Not Seeing curated by Kiron open till November 4 atBennett Gallery, Benalla Art Gallery http://www.benallaartgallery.com.au/exhibitions A simple soup dinner and a bottle of red are shared with Kiron and Jake after the recording. 

Episode notes: TWO GUEST SPEAKERS:Kate Davishttp://www.datekavis.com/about Pavement ProjectsInstagram @pavementprojects Mark Friedlanderhttp://www.markfriedlander.com.au EXHIBITIONS AND ARTISTS MENTIONED BY KATE: Lee Shun Lun New objectives at Bus projectshttps://busprojects.org.auhttps://busprojects.org.au/program/new-objectives Forum at the Victorian College of the Arts (VCA): Social Practice: Art at the Community Interfacehttps://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/social-practice-art-at-the-community-interface-tickets-48860513110#The five speakers: Tiriki Onus (Yorta Yorta), Beth Sometimes, Amelia Turner (Arrernte), Nuraini Juliastuti, Tania Cañas, Social engagement practice in TAIWAN:Wu Mali, artist (TW)http://field-journal.com/issue-3/an-interview-with-wu-malihttps://www.ktpress.co.uk/pdf/nparadoxaissue5_Mali-Wu_45-56.pdf? Yao Juichung, artist, (TW)http://www.yaojuichung.com/htdocs/?page=artworks When pigs fly, an artist collective, (TW)https://www.instagram.com/10whenpigsfly/ Turner prize 2015 to Assemblehttps://assemblestudio.co.uk Yoko ono - Grapefruit, a book of instructions and drawingshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_(book) Telephone Piecehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60foC_3pPLg Erwin Wurmhttps://www.erwinwurm.at/artworks.html Book: Fiction as methodhttp://www.sternberg-press.com/index.php?pageId=1803&bookId=696&l=en THE EXHIBITIONS AND ARTISTS MENTIONED BY MARK:Kings ARIhttp://www.kingsartistrun.org.au Samuel SzwarcbordNot Straighthttp://www.kingsartistrun.org.au/program/not-straight/ Callum HarperMSG seen! - not read.https://www.kingsartistrun.org.au/artists/callum-harper/http://callumharper.squarespace.com Evan LoxtonAt the centre of her ironic faith, her blasphemy, is the image of the cyborghttps://www.evanloxton.comhttps://www.kingsartistrun.org.au/artists/evan-loxton/ Darren Muncehttp://www.darrenmunce.comhttp://fivewalls.com.au Shane Gladwellhttps://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/shaun-gladwell-at-ngas-hyper-real-a-vr-journey-into-the-human-skull-20171211-h02kif.html Movie: The future(2011) by Miranda July.https://www.mirandajuly.com Charlie Sofohttp://charliesofo.blogspot.com Host note: It was amazing long conversation with Mark and Kate. Kate brought many good discussion points on socially engaged practice. Mark gave a honest and fantastic reviews on his experiences at the opening event of the exhibitions at Kings ARI. Please be patient, I assure you there are many good points that have emerged in our entertaining conversations!

Episode Note: Two guests: Corinna Berndt https://corinnaberndt.net Kat Kohler http://katkohler.com From Corinna: Robert Smithson: Time Crystals July 21 - September 22, 2018 at Monash University Museum of Art https://www.monash.edu/muma From Kat: Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago https://www.mcachicago.org RIFT: Particulate Matter at Testing Grounds http://www.testing-grounds.com.au/project-archive/ Host note: This is the 1st episode of the 2nd season of Three Bellybuttons. I was so pleased to have Corinna and Kat take off the new season and share their recent thoughts and experiences in the art. In this episode, Corinna spoke about her experiences of visiting a current exhibition: Robert Smithson's exhibition 'Time Crystal' at Month University Museums of Art. Whereas, Kat proposed a discussion about the collaboration between curators and artists. I appreciate the openness and honesty Kat and Corinna gave to this episode. I hope you, listeners, would enjoy this episode and find it inspiring and informative. Also, I might need to apology to amount of taking that I did in this episode. Kat was so good at her job as a curator - proposing questions. Please follow Kat and Corinna if you are interested in their projects. Three Bellybuttons Podcast has its Instagram account now!!! Please follow us @ThreeBellybuttonsPodcast. Or check out Three Bellybutton blog: https://threebellybuttonspodcast.blogspot.com Mini hamburger biscuits Kat brought to the recording. a complimentary dinner served after the recording.

Marcel Fillafe http://feillafe.com Gogo bar at Chin Chin restaurant: https://www.chinchinrestaurant.com.au/melbourne/gogo-bar/ Notes: After recording ten episodes of Three Bellybuttons, Marcel and I took time off and reviewed on the production of the podcast. While Three Bellybuttons is about to launch its season II, Marcel has to say goodbye to Three Bellybuttons and its listeners. Due to the upcoming projects, he feels the need of spending more time on his own practice. It has been so fantastic to work with Marcel. It never is easy to do anything for free. With Marcel's support, generosity and passion to this podcast, Three bellybuttons seemingly smoothly took off in its season I. I am very appreciated and wish all the best to the success of his projects.  Soooo, I am looking for a sound tech to work with me for Three Bellybutton now. If anyone has the skill of recording and editing sounds, also, is willing to donate time to this podcast, also is enthusiastic to contribute to divers voices in art community, please contact me for more info! Unfortunately this is a voluntary position. I only could pay with free meals, drinks and interesting conversation.  There is an amazing list of guests in the 2nd season of Three Bellybuttons. Please stay in tune. :)

Episode notes: Two guests: Leanne Waterhouse: https://www.leannewaterhouse.com Julie Gough: https://juliegough.net 'Nanette' by Hannah Gadsby Reviews on main press publications: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/arts/television/nanette-hannah-gadsby-netflix-roundup.html https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-comedian-forcing-stand-up-to-confront-the-metoo-era https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/aug/19/hannah-gadsby-review-nanette The key names and information mentioned during the conversation: the Myall Creek massacre http://www.myallcreekmassacre.com/Myall_Creek_Massacre/Home.html Lyndall Ryan's mapping aboriginal massacres project: https://www.smh.com.au/national/mapping-aboriginal-massacres-makes-it-time-to-recognise-the-colonial-wars-say-leading-historians-20170705-gx4y3m.html The memorial at Fitzroy for the stolen generation by Reko Rennie-  https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/culture/aboriginal/en/audiotrack/stolen-generations-marker-remember-me-honours-fitzroy-community Julie's work: Chase, 2001, Tea tree installation. https://nga.gov.au/Exhibition/unDisclosed/default.cfm?MnuID=ARTISTS&GALID=18777&viewID=3 Host notes: In this episode, Three Bellybuttons was pleased to have two high-achieving visual artists: Leanne Waterhouse and Julie Gough to share their recent art experiences. Following Leanne's experience of watching Hanna Gadsby's Nanette on Netflix, we spent the whole episode talking about this amazingly unique comedy show and Hannah's brilliant performance. Leanne proposed that standup comedy show should be considered an art form too. She believed Nanette had all qualities to be viewed as a piece of highbrow art. Leanne broke down the show into moments and actions from which a discussion was elaborated between us. Julie continued the topic on Nanette. As a person from the same city that Hanna is from, Julie suggested that Hannah blurred the boundary between comedy show and theatre works. By using the knowledge about Myall Creek massacre, Julie raised the question if the art was competent in assisting people of current generation to deal with trauma, especially the ones inherited from previous generations, and in producing memorials. This episode presented a heated, vibrant and smooth conversation that could be related to many listeners. In the end, Julie revealed a book that she was finishing up for Lost Rocks series. It was the project including 50 Tasmanian people to write about rock. The book is called 'Shale'. it will be out in October. Leanne's exhibition titled Subterraneans will be held at the Dirty Dozen (in Campbell Arcade, underground commuter walkway from Flinders street Station to Degraves Street). It is curated by Leanne and shows twelve artists who have studied at MFA course at RMIT. The show opens to the public from 20/7 - 24/8. The opening will be from 7-9pm on Friday 20/7. Please check it out.

Episode Note:Two guests:Julia Boros, a Melbourne based artist - http://www.juliaboros.comAllison Chan, a Melbourne based writer - http://peril.com.au/people/allison-chan/ Julia’s residency -Blönduós, Icelandhttps://guidetoiceland.is/travel-iceland/drive/blonduos Icelandic Textile Centrehttp://textile.is/english-2/https://textilsetur.com/residency/ Roni Horn - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roni_HornBird - https://steidl.de/Books/Bird-0911385960.htmlA library of Glacial Water in Iceland - https://hyperallergic.com/226116/a-library-of-glacial-water-in-iceland/ Allison Chanthe 21st Biennale of Sydney. Superposition Equilibrium and Engagement - https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/venues/cockatoo-island/Icarus Cell, 2016. Yukinori Yanagi. https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/artists/yukinori-yanagi/ Julie's upcoming exhibition: Confluent, October 13 - November 13, 2018. Opening Saturday October 13 4-6pm. Gallery Smith Project http://www.gsprojectspace.com/exhibitions/ Host note:In this episode, I had two eloquent and thoughtful speakers: Julia Boros, a Melbourne-based artist and Allison Chan, a Melbourne-based writer. Julia spoke about her recent liberating experience of taking an artist residency at Icelandic Textile Centre in Blönduós, Iceland. She unrevaled her deep connection to the unique landscape of Iceland and the community of Blönduós. Julia also showed us the relationship that another artist, Roni Horn (USA) has drawn with Iceland. From Julia's talk, a conundrum was emerged that one sometimes need travel far to find centre of self. Following Julia, Allison shared her critical view on the 21st Biennale of Sydney (BOS) this year and her experience of visiting the cockatoo island site. Allison asked how we should answer the questions: What is art in Australian? and What is the relevance of the biennale to the art in Australia? also, Is it nesccesary to bring an Asian perspective into the BOS? When Allison was asked about the works that stood out from her experience, Allison talked bout Yukinori Yanagi’s Icarus Cell. As I had seen the BOS this year too, I probably spoke too much on the topic of BOS. In the end of this episode, in response to the conversation about the BOS 2018, Julia brought up Roni Horn’s another project “A library of Glacial water in Iceland' and read a quote from Roni's writing about the need of traveling to different place.  It was such a thoughtful discussion with Julis and Allison. There were so many good points opened up during our conversation. I hope the listeners will enjoy this episode too. :) Vegetable soup was served after the episode recording. 

Episode note: Two guests: Amie Anderson http://www.amieanderson.net Eric Jong: http://www.ericjong.com.au The art space and exhibition that Amie mentioned: Pavement projects at 122 Hoddle street, Abbotsford Pavement Projects curator: Kate Davis: http://www.datekavis.com/about Skippy the Bush Kangaroo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skippy_the_Bush_Kangaroo Turnt: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/turnt The key artists and works mentioned during the discussion around Eric's topics: Nathan Stolz: www.nathanstolz.com/ The Act of Killing (film): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Act_of_Killing The Editorial: The Unbearable Hotness of Decolonisation by Maddee Clark and Neika Lehman. in UN magazine:  http://www.unprojects.org.au/magazine/issues/issue-12-1/editorial-the-unbearable-hotness-of-decolonisation/ Jeremy Deller: (British artist) http://www.jeremydeller.org His work: The battle of Orgreave http://www.jeremydeller.org/TheBattleOfOrgreave/TheBattleOfOrgreave_Video.php Host note: In this episode, we had Amie Anderson and Eric Jong. Amie told us about an exciting new art space in Melbourne. It's called Pavement Projects and located at 122 Hoddle street, Abbotsford. A Melbourne based curator and artist: Kate Davis is managing this space. For this episode of Three Bellybuttons, Amie shared her experience of seeing the current exhibition at Pavement Projects. It was Lara Chamas's exhibition titled Skippy gets burnt and converts to islam. Amie's detailed description and research about Lara's works brought an interesting discussion on the visual presentation of the Australian identity, the Skippy as the icon of the white Australian culture, and Australian muslim community.  We all enjoyed learning a new English slang 'Turnt' from the title of this exhibition. Following Amie, Eric Jong, in his second time visiting Three bellybuttons, extended the discussion that he had at the class of Master of Fine Art in the Victorian College of the Arts, and asked us to share opinions on the idea about "the validity of documentary" in art space and how the art creates availability of a critical space to open conversations in public. During the discussion, he talked about magical realism and the film the act of killing. He mis-said the directors name as Robert Oppenheimer - but it is actually Joshua Oppenheimer. When we talked about the authenticity and morality in the process of art-making, we exchanged our thoughts on recent popular topic about de-colonisation in the art world. There were so many good points and valuable questions in this episode conversation. I hope you will enjoy listening and be inspired. Pavement Projects will hold its first public event: Finissage: Skippy gets turnt and converts to Islam, Lara Chamas on 30 June. More information about this event can be read on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/239308426832736/?notif_t=plan_user_invited¬if_id=1528878601687172 Please check out Eric's documentation business: Recreate. at https://recreate.gallery For the dinner, we had few stir-fries and rice:

Episode notes: Two guests: Sophia Hewson - http://www.sophiahewson.com/work Danielle Freakley - https://www.freakley.net Sophia spoke about seeing Plight by Joseph Beuys (1985) at Pompisou Centre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqo5DZfCiM4 https://www.artefields.net/magazine-art/joseph-beuys-plight-centre-pompidou/ Centre Pompidou - https://www.centrepompidou.fr Danielle Freakley mentioned the experience of seeing the performance of Smash and Grab music band. Sophia's work is currently showing at 2018 Bayside Acquisitive Art Prize. May 18 to July 8, 2018. https://www.bayside.vic.gov.au/events/2018-bayside-acquisitive-art-prize-finalist-exhibition Danielle will have her work shown at ARoS, Denmark. ARoS - https://en.aros.dk Host notes: This is an usual episode. In this episode, two guests didn't speak about much current exhibitions and art events. Rather, they openly spoke about the art experiences that stroke them deeply, and their honest thoughts about living as practice visual artists. In addition, Danielle implemented her participative performance work in this episode. We all were asked to speak in an unconventional way. I have to admit that I was not good at complying the rule. I often got confused about what to say and ask during the conversation. but we still managed to expressed our ideas and exchanged our thoughts.   There were so many laughs and voice crossovers. It may sounds a bit messy. But there are many gems imbedded in. Please be patient with this episode. I hope you will find it interesting. It was pizza for dinner.

Episode notes: Two guests: 1, Charles Lai - the link to Charles' blog where he lists all the art exhibition openings in Melbourne. http://charlesartlife.com 2, Monique La Fontaine - http://www.moniquelafontaine.com.au The exhibition mentioned by Charles in this episode: 1, Cyrus Tang's solo exhibition titled 'Golden Hour'. 17 April - 19 May. at Arcone Gallery. https://arcone.com.au The list of films that Cyrus uses as the titles of her portrait photographs. To Live, 1994, directed by Zhang Yimou - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Live_(1994_film) Ten Years, 2015 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Years_(2015_film) A Simple Life, 2011, directed by Ann Hui - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Simple_Life The artist mentioned by Charles: David Rosetzky - http://davidrosetzky.com His video work - Forever - http://davidrosetzky.com/work/heart-forever/ His work 'Custom made' at Buxton Contemporary - https://buxtoncontemporary.com/exhibitions/the-shape-of-things-to-come/ the artists in my comments: 1, Angelica Mesiti - http://www.angelicamesiti.com her work Rapture, 2009. http://www.angelicamesiti.com/selectedworks/#/rapture/ 2, Gerhard Richter - https://www.gerhard-richter.com/en/ The exhibitions that Monique mentioned: 1, Kyneton Contemporary Triennial - http://kynetoncontemporary.com Sarah Rudlege, 'Kyneton 6m50sec', - http://kynetoncontemporary.com/sarahrudledge/ Elvis Richardson - http://kynetoncontemporary.com/elvisrichardson/ Jessie Stanley - http://kynetoncontemporary.com/jessiestanley/ Tom Borgas - http://kynetoncontemporary.com/tomborgas/ Force field: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_field_(physics) 2, Dwelling Poetically: Mexico City, a case study 21 April - 24 June, Australian Centre for Contemporary Art https://acca.melbourne/exhibition/dwelling-poetically-mexico-city-a-case-study/ Host note: In this episode, Charles took us to the process of creation of Cyrus's new portrait works. The works are currently shown in her solo exhibition 'Golden Hour' at Arcone gallery. Charles did not only share his unique experience of being an participant in Cyrus's production, but also his insights and interpretation of Cyrus's works. As he unravelled his thoughts and options on Cyrus's works, he also unlocked some potion about his life and drew a self-portrait for us. Meanwhile, with her generous description of the works in Kyneton Contemporary, Monique presented a vivid image of this past art event. She highly spoke about the works she saw at Kyneton Contemporary. But she still honestly slipped in a critical comment on what KCT had missed. Monique also shared her critical views and disappointing feeling towards 'Dwelling Poetically' at ACCA. Both Charles and Monique are excellent and eloquent speakers. I am sure you will get a lot from this episode. (pleases forgive and skip my 'dribbles'.) I served Nicoise Salad for all the guests after the recording. Unfortunately, I did not take any photographs of the food this time.

Episode notes: Two artist guest:  Jeremy Eaton https://www.kingsartistrun.org.au/artists/jeremy-eaton/ Jeremy's upcoming artist in residency at TESTING-GROUND: 'Interior for a film" http://www.testing-grounds.com.au/events/interior-for-a-film/ Testing-Ground:  http://www.testing-grounds.com.au Diego Ramirez http://www.diego-ramirez.net Diego's three video works will be screened at ACMI at Monday 7 May 630pm. The screening is part of ACMI's ART+FILM program. It is titled, Diego Ramirez: Towards the Umbral. An artist talk will be followed after the screening.  Detail info: https://acca.melbourne/program/artfilm-diego-ramirez-towards-the-umbral/ or https://www.acmi.net.au/events/art-film/ Diego's curated exhibition titled "Family Grimoires: The Diaspora Fantastic" will be shown at SEVENTH gallery from May 31st - June 15th, 2018. The opening is Wednesday May 30th 6-8pm.  For detail information, please check SEVENTH gallery website: http://seventhgallery.org Or follow SEVENTH gallery on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/seventhgallery The exhibition: Terror Nullius, 20 March - 1 July, 2018 https://www.acmi.net.au/events/terror-nullius/ACMI: https://www.acmi.net.au/ Soda Jerk http://www.sodajerk.com.au Host notes: Not every time two guests talked about the same art exhibition in one episode. Terror Nullius with its delicious critical and humours charm had attracted everyone to talk about it in this episode, including Marcel, the theme song composer and sound editor of this podcast. I hope our discussion would bring you some insights about this exhibition and Soda Jerk, the artist. Also the issues that this exhibition provoked to not only the art world but also the social political situation in Australia in general. Please enjoy listening. Catch you next time. For Jeremy and Diego, I made supper consisting of grilled salmon with roasted vegetable, pizza, and green salad. Also the best-found Italian Red from ALDI. :)