Our guest for episode 64 is violinist, orchestrator, arranger, educator and potentially busiest person in the world, Katie Kresek. Katie is currently concertmaster and co-orchestrator on the Broadway production of Moulin Rouge - this year she became only the 4th woman ever to be Tony nominated in the orchestrations category.

Seb and Verity catch Katie via zoom on a break in her hectic schedule at her home in New York. Despite some internet related issues - the curse of 2021 - they have a fulsome chat about Broadway reopening, the joyous collaborative process of orchestrating Moulin Rouge and what we can expect when it arrives in the West End this year.

Katie talks about depping on other shows (including some shared love for Hamilton), learning how to say no to things, successful collaborations with pop acts and the dancing/playing conundrum.....with reference to podcast favourite, Kelly Pratt. They discuss crazy commutes, mastering backing vocals and an amazing University course Katie taught in NYC - it'll make you all want to go back into education!

There is an early guest appearance from Matilda the cat and a late intervention from baby Stella! Plain sailing as always...

You can find out more about Katie on her website and follow her on Instagram.

Check out this interview and video giving some insight into orchestrating Moulin Rouge here

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This week’s guest is French violinist, internet sensation and famed cat lover, Esther Abrami. Esther has been at the forefront of bringing classical music to a multitude of digital platforms, reaching new audiences and creating online communities.

Seb and Verity chat to Esther about her debut singles for Sony Classical and her upcoming album release. The focus of the album is on bringing great works by female composers Into the spotlight, having been largely ignored until now. She talks about the joy of having a creative hand in styling her music videos....check out 3 Romances, it’s a visual delight! (Link below).

Esther discusses how she made the bold decision to strike out online when still at music college and the resistance she faced from staff and peers. She talks about the different styles of her videos, laying herself bare by posting practise sessions and going viral with the infamous ‘cats in pouch’ video.

They discuss different approaches to presenting yourself in performance, being daunted by TikTok and whooping in concerts! Esther also tells them about meeting and performing with a huge inspiration to her, Ibrahim Maalouf and the terrifying prospect of having to improvise in front of his audience.

Learn more about Esther on her website; estherabrami.com

You can watch all her videos on her YouTube channel

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Check out the videos for her latest singles here: Romance for Violin and Piano by Amy Beach

and Tomorrow

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In this week’s episode Seb and Verity meet up with saxophonist, composer, songwriter and all round excellent human being Luiza Lale In her South London home. It is here where Lu and her cellist/composer/arranger husband Dave have been successfully carving out a new career writing commercial music.

Lu chats about the inspirational online courses she attended that started her on this new path and introduced her to new collaborators and friends across the globe. They discuss what is required to write for adverts/libraries/TV - with particular reference to Homes Under The Hammer.

Lu talks about the difficulty in giving a name to your group - although her sax/cello duo with Dave is named Cellax so we think she’s got this nailed down. She also reminisces about her first foray into songwriting, Dear Deirdre, The musical....a modern day masterpiece by all accounts!

There is a concerted effort to pick apart the meaning of different genres, such as ‘Ethnic Chill’, ‘Alt Rock’ and most challenging of all ‘Chamber Psych’....any ideas? Answers on a postcard please.

You can take a listen to Lu’s music on her website; https://www.sonicrainbow.co.uk/

Follow Sonic Rainbow on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sonicrainbowmusic/

as well as Lu’s Saxaphone Quartet, Spiral, who are on Facebook https://m.facebook.com/spiralsax/

The songwriting course Lu mentions is run by https://www.catchthemoonmusic.com/

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🚨IT’S THE BIG NEWS ALARM!

That’s right podfriends, we’ve squeezed in this cheeky bonus episode to tell you three major pieces of TIAB info....The most exciting of which is that on Sunday 19 Sept at 6.30pm we will be hosting another livestream event from Arnos Groove studios in aid of The Irene Taylor Trust.

There is much more information to follow but for now we can tell you it’s jam packed with fantastic musical acts and will involve live performances, interviews and much high jinx!

As with our Christmas party, it’ll be free to view on YouTube but if you are able to donate to the brilliant Irene Taylor Trust (and our performers) there will be a link on screen throughout the evening - as well as many, many social media posts as a reminder!

As an added bonus, this time there will be a limited number of tickets to come to see the event live and enjoy an end of summer festival feeling which we’ve missed so much over the last two years. Keep your eyes peeled for more details coming up over the next few weeks if you fancy joining us in person.

If you’d like to join our newly restructured Patreon and help us to continue growing our podcast see the link below. Thanks for all of your continued support - we love doing this podcast and are looking forward to more exciting times ahead!

Take a look at our Christmas Party livestream here to get a taste of what you are in for! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DqKeG7nYdpo

Also check out the fantastic Irene Taylor Trust, who we will be raising money for this time round https://irenetaylortrust.com/

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In Episode 61 Seb and Verity take a day trip to the countryside to meet up with star of musical theatre, stage and screen, Wendi Peters. Many of you will know Wendi as Cilla Battersby-Brown from her 5 year stint on Coronation Street, but she has also had an outstanding career in musical theatre - most recently in the starring role as Diana in You Are Here at the Southwark Playhouse.

Wendi chats about maintaining vocal fitness in challenging roles, mastering home recording and become a tech pro. She talks about her early training - including some questionable improv dancing to get her Equity card - and how persistence and extreme letter writing ultimately led to success.

Seb and Verity ask Wendi about her time on Corrie and the pluses and minuses of being so strongly associated with one role. She recounts playing the notorious Pam Podger In Bad Girls and having to wrestle in a shower in a fat suit....

They discuss panto and three show Saturdays, Stars in Their Eyes and Flockstars. Harking back to previous Ill advised plans, Seb and Verity make a promise to start a #wendipetersforstrictly campaign....expect at least three posts with this hashtag!

You can follow Wendi on social media - https://www.instagram.com/wendi.peters/ and https://www.twitter.com/WendiPeters/

Here is a link to Wendi’s next production The Legend of Sleepy Hollow with tour dates and links for tickets: https://www.tiltedwigproductions.com/copy-of-lady-chatterley-s-lover

Wendi transforms into Kirsty MacColl on Stars In Their Eyes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vIt0uyxN27c

Watch a clip of Wendi in her outstanding performance as Diana in You Are Here at the Southwark Playhouse: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Muk18nuUbZw

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Bonus chat with Mike Lewis! We discuss home recordings, go into more depth on the Messina, teaching, Eau Claire, and of course... Swindon.

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In episode 60 Seb and Verity take a virtual trip to Minneapolis to meet saxophonist and bassist, Mike Lewis. Mike is a member of internationally acclaimed indie folk band, Bon Iver as well as numerous other groups including Happy Apple, Fat Kid Wednesdays, Alpha Consumer and the excellently named, Sad Sax of Shit.

In an interesting reversal of roles, it is Bon Iver superfan Seb who has to restrain his inner fanboy at the start of this episode.

They chat about Bon Iver’s incredible NPR concert, how they keep shows fresh, improvisation and the development of songs during a touring cycle. Mike talks about the ‘terror and beauty’ in using a Messina and has an excellent stab at explaining how it works.

Seb and Verity ask Mike about his experiences of People festival in Berlin - including abduction concerts and the formation of some unlikely musical collaborations. The chat about they joy and humanity of live cock ups, filling his time during lockdown, Yo La Tengo and.......Ready, Steady, Cook. Tangible links as usual then!

Follow Bon Iver on socials at https://www.Instagram.com/boniver/ or https://www.twitter.com/boniver/ or https://m.facebook.com/boniverwi

To read more about the band, find out upcoming tour dates & new releases check out their website : https://boniver.org/

You can watch Bon Iver’s incredible NPR gig here: https://youtu.be/YJNi7aRwUzU

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Every now and then we like to throw in a curveball episode to mix things up, so this week we head to the brilliant Phlox Books In Leyton to chat to owner, Aimée Madill, about music and literature.

What Aimée doesn’t know about books ain’t worth knowing! She studied at Trinity in Dublin and prior to opening Phlox, spent time working at the famous Shakespeare & Co in Paris. Her ability to speed read is mind blowing and Aimée exudes enthusiasm and passion for all kinds of literary genres.

Seb and Verity chat to Aimée about the use of music and musicians in literature, both good and bad and where music and literature intersect. They also discuss musician’s autobiographies, great lyricists vs absurd lyrics, Aimée’s childhood music tastes and being harassed by cats in Cats. Aimée also chats about a brief dalliance with the tin whistle, hurling and the Harlem Renaissance.

There are some great recommendations of books/genres to try for those short rehearsal breaks/people heading back into orchestra pits and also longer reads for anyone heading off on long journeys again.....what a wonderful thought! See below for an extensive reading list!

This episode wonders off on many tangents and Seb and Verity display their somewhat embarrassing grasp on French history but it’s packed with interesting info and books to suit every taste!

Check out more about Phlox Books on their website https://www.phloxbooks.com/

Follow Phlox and keep up to date with their frequent events and book recommendations on socials: https://www.instagram.com/phloxbooks/

https://www.twitter.com/PhloxBooks/ and https://m.facebook.com/phloxbooks/

RECOMMENDED READING LIST

Music/Musicians in literature:

Carson McCullers - The Heart is a Lonely Hunter

Ralph Ellison - The Invisible Man

Tom Barbash - The Dakota Winters

Kevin Barry - Beatlebone

Ann Patchett - Bel Canto

Zadie Smith - Swing Time

Jane Austen - Pride and Prejudice

Ian McEwan - On Chesil Beach

Julian Barnes - The Noise Of Time

Michael Ondaatje - Coming Through Slaughter

Jeffrey Eungenides - The Virgin Suicides

Children’s Musical Books:

David Litchfield - The Bear and The Piano

Jessica Courtney-Tickle - The Story Orchestra series

Other books referenced in this episode:

Morrissey - Autobiography

Chinua Achebe - Things Fall Apart

André Aciman - Call Me by Your Name

Mikhail Bulgakov - The Master and Margarita

Gerard Way - The Umbrella Academy

Ottessa Moshfegh - My Year of Rest and Relaxation

George Saunders - Lincoln in the Bardo

Pushkin Vertigo Series - Pushkin Press

Also referenced:

Little Nas X - Call Me by Your Name https://open.spotify.com/track/67BtfxlNbhBmCDR2L2l8qd?si=N46J2pYwTTq_CmdYVDw1Hw&dl_branch=1

Kendrick Lamar - King Kunta https://open.spotify.com/track/0N3W5peJUQtI4eyR6GJT5O?si=pRoBbWMlRBezMwP68vbJMg&dl_branch=1

Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil https://open.spotify.com/track/75zMKn5euxQdlkZgu4P42J?si=ZCvbdexuS8ywD2M-W9VA2g&dl_branch=1

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We’re back in person and back in the East End of London for this week’s episode with composer, lyricist, pianist and musical director Theo Jamieson.

Seb and Verity chat to Theo about his new musical which has been commissioned by BBC World Service, U.Me - written for radio and podcast. The whole thing was put together in 7 weeks so Theo talks crazy work schedules, cutting out procrastination and the art of delegation.

They also discuss Theo’s route into music, a musical which brought together the unlikely combo of Imelda Marcos, David Byrne and Fatboy Slim and his latest work which he describes as a ‘Sci Fi song cycle’.

Theo talks about his love of Sondheim and epic orchestrations, plus his work as a musical director on West End shows including Funny Girl and Everybody’s Talking About Jamie.

Listen to the end to hear Theo relive a seminal moment from his career so far when he delivers the iconic lines from his role as ‘Hugo, the posh DJ’ in cult TV show Skins - Truly not to be missed!

You can follow Theo on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/theo.jamieson/

and on Twitter https://www.twitter.com/TheoJamieson/

You can listen to Theo’s new musical, U.Me here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2p4tJ5YwSxnrCVVG5s2tKwg/u-me-the-musical

The original DJ Hugo performance in Channel 4’s Skins: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ixk5DAN3vlw

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That’s right pod fans! There’s more - Jon’s conversation was so stacked full of excellent anecdotes and fascinating insights that we couldn’t fit it all into one episode.

So, in round two Seb and Verity chat to Jon about the unexpected way he came to join The War In Drugs, recording and performing with the band and winning a Grammy in 2018.

Jon discusses his wild and joyous ska band era, growing up in the late 80s - the saxophone glory days - and jamming with John Zorn. He talks about the amazing experience of performing with Liza Minnelli - warning, this story features more traumatic accordion content!

You can learn more about Jon’s work on his website; https://jonnatchez.com

Follow Jon on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ and Twitter https://www.twitter.com/JonNatchez/

Check out The War On Drugs at their website https://www.thewarondrugs.net

Listen to their latest release, Live Drugs here: https://open.spotify.com/album/6wkH6InYGqr5hXxzLkt5Rz?si=vw8GFA2WRluIjPcRiNftHQ&dl_branch=1

Here is a link to a clip from Luzzu featuring a glimpse of Jon’s score: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=35pjbBJXrOQ

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