Karen had lived an entire life before she learned her mother had a not-so-secret past, where she was notorious for meeting a man, having a child, abandoning that child, and then repeating the process. Karen would learn she wasn't the oldest of 2 siblings... she was the 12th of 13 children.

Hope Lives Here is a production of Voyage Media. The series is produced by Nat Mundel and Dan Benamor. This episode, Throwaway Kids, is executive produced by Karen Kulinich. Story produced by Ilyssa Goodman. Starring Stephanie Ittleson as Karen and Livia Trevino as Darla. Edited, sound designed and mixed by James Scully. Original music by Derlis Gonzalez. If you're enjoying the show, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you're listening, and subscribe now, for future episodes.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices