Tim Cook shoots down Bryan’s hypothesis about when he’ll retire from Apple, Jeff doesn’t help with Bryan cope with the emotional trauma. But on a happier note, they also get excited about Lil Finder Guy, and Jeff is interested in the new AirPods Max 2.

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