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The most exciting news from this week is that we have a brand new home! At Time to Unwind HQ, we’ve set up a recording studio with all the latest kit – ensuring that we now have all the gear and no idea. When it comes to recording at least: hopefully we know a bit more about watches. This week, we’re talking about the ‘one that got away’: watches that we either sold and regretted, or never bought and should have done. And for good measure, we throw in a couple of cars as well. To quote the poet T.S. Eliot: “Footfalls echo in the memory/Down the passage we did not take/Towards the door we never opened.” It’s going to be emotional.
Show Notes;
Oris Chronoris: https://www.oris.ch/en/collection/oris-chronoris
Eterna watches: https://www.eterna.com
‘JPS’ Daytona record auction: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex-daytona-john-player-special-sells-for-pound12-million-at-sothebys
Chopard 1000 Miglia: https://www.chopard.com/intl/watches/men-s-watches/classic-racing
Favre Leuba orange and yellow dial: https://www.watchpro.com/favre-leuba-adds-sporty-orange-and-yellow-dial-options-to-its-raider-sea-sky-family/
Sinn U50: https://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/U50.htm
Squale 1521: https://www.squalewatches.com/Squale_50_Atmos_Dive_Watches_s/101.htm
Full set of Dirty Dozen watches for auction: https://oracleoftime.com/complete-set-of-wii-dirty-dozen-watches-headline-fellows-auction/
Heuer Regatta: https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1980s-heuer-regatta-pvd-reference-134-601?variant=29964816580683
Heuer Monza: https://www.calibre11.com/vintage-heuer-monza-series-overview/
Rolex Datejust: https://www.rolex.com/watches/datejust.html
Geckota Tourbillon: https://www.watchgecko.com/geckota-t-01-gen-2-tourbillon-hand-wound-watch
Rolex Daytona white dial: https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona/m116500ln-0001.html
Tudor day-date: https://www.tudorwatch.com/en/watches/glamour-date-day/m56000-0008
Tudor Ranger on Chrono 24: https://www.chrono24.co.uk/tudor/heritage-ranger--mod1426.htm#gref
Heuer Montreal: https://www.calibre11.com/heuer-montreal/
Panerai Luminor: https://www.panerai.com/en/collections/watch-collection/luminor.html
Porsche 993: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_993
Porsche 924 buyer’s guide: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/used-car-buying-guide-porsche-924
Last time, Anthony and Jon revealed which cars and watches they would buy in certain different price categories, inspired by a question we asked our resident racing driver Scott McKenna: https://www.watchgecko.com/the-cars-and-watches-challenge-scott-mckenna/
To summarise: you’ve got around £150,000 to spend on four cars and four watches. One car has to cost no more than £5000, the next no more than £10,000, the third no more than £20,000 and the final one £100,000.
Same goes for watches: one watch to be no more than £500, the next no more than £1000, the third no more than £2000, and the final one no more than £10,000.
What will Ben and Tim come up with? Listen (and read) on to find out. Those of a sensitive nature when it comes to budgets might want to look away now.
Show Notes;
Anthony gets pranked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxJgB9xHf0&feature=youtu.be
Mido Ocean Star: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/mido-ocean-star-decompression-timer-1961-rainbow-diver-live-pics-pricing-introducing
Bargain BMW from Ben: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaQzEvpmDIo
Ben’s choice for £10K: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-guides/porsche-cayman
Here's what Tim would buy for £10K: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/cars/land-rover/defender-90
Ben ups the stakes: https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/alfa-romeo-gtv-6-3-0qv-rally-klaar-gasoline-red-3e40c091-f3df-4689-85e9-152d90afaea4?cldtidx=5&cldtsrc=listPage
Here’s why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPMXHqZeuEE
Tim’s choice for £20K: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/audi/s3
Ben blows £100K: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201912115233257?make=FERRARI&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=price-desc&radius=1500&postcode=gl502dr&price-to=100000&year-to=1990&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1&newApplicationVersion=true
Tim blows a bit more: https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1124017
Here's Ben’s choice for the same amount: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Yema-Wristmaster-Mens-Diver-Watch-43mm-Hand-winding/202995756093?hash=item2f437d6c3d:g:GZcAAOSw5NpdoDxk
How about this for less than £5K? https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/datejust--id15518907.htm
Back on budget: https://www.watchgecko.com/the-hamilton-pilot-pioneer-mechanical/
Here are the rules of the game. You’ve got around £150,000 to spend on four cars and four watches. One car has to cost no more than £5000, the next no more than £10,000, the third no more than £20,000 and the final one £100,000. Same goes for watches: one watch to be no more than £500, the next no more than £1,000, the third no more than £2,000, and the final one no more than £10,000. Anthony and Jon are up first, with Tim and Ben making their choices next week. Expect no mercy to be shown...
The new Banksy
Richard Hammond attempts to drive an F1 car
Certina DS-1 Powermatic 80
Seiko 5 Black and Gold
Hamilton military watch found on eBay
Lorando Valjoux
Glycine Combat Sub
Yema Superman French Air Force Limited Edition
Anonimo Nautilio Vintage Blue
TAG-Heuer Formula 1
Omega Constellation
Universal Geneve Polerouter
Ben's favourite Polerouter
Sinn U50
Cartier Tank
Heuer Daytona
Girard Perregaux Laureato
Anthony's Panerai choice...
Ben's Panerai choice
Ah, the endless debate of Tudor vs Rolex. Much like iPhone vs Android there is always another side of the argument that comes to the table whenever this discussion arises; and it was no different here!
Sit back and enjoy the four regulars chatting about everything Rolex vs Tudor as we muscle in our opinions on this debate for the ages…
Show notes:
Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue https://www.watchgecko.com/introducing-the-tudor-black-bay-58-navy-blue/
I am Giannis Nike Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyxLKFDwwU4
Guiliano Alesi & FP Journe https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrDJs1hBqp/
Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80244088
Breguet Tradition Automatique Seconde Rétrograde 7097 https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/breguet-tradition-automatique-seconde-retrograde-7097-boutique-edition-introducing
Yema Flygraf , Yema Rallye Andretti LE, Yema Rallye Andretti LE Video https://eu.yema.com/
Rado Golden Horse Automatic, Rado Captain Cook Bronze Blue, Rado Captain Cook Bronze Green https://www.rado.com/en_gb
Tudor Black Bay 58 https://www.watchgecko.com/the-tudor-black-bay-58-review/
Tudor Black Bay 41 https://www.watchgecko.com/the-tudor-black-bay-review/
Tudor Black Bay GMT https://www.watchgecko.com/tudor-black-bay-gmt-straps-review/
We’re lucky to feature a very special guest on our podcast this week: Neil Duckworth from Veritime. Neil now specialises in working with a variety of different watch brands that he finds interesting – and he was kind enough to bring in a few examples to show us, which are all fascinating conversation pieces. However, he’s probably best-known for establishing TAG-Heuer in the UK: or just Heuer, as it was known when Neil started in 1982 (because TAG didn’t join the party until 1986). That puts him in a great position to look at how times and tastes have changed over the years and speculate about what’s likely to happen in the future. It’s a fascinating chat with several trips down Memory Lane – plus, of course, all the usual nonsense that you’ve come to know and love (!) from Jon, Tim, Ben and Anthony.
Show Notes;
NATO watch straps (that look good on a Submariner): https://www.watchgecko.com/nato-zulu-watch-straps
Goodwood Revival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V12PGhNY3EE
Alive: the story of the Andes plane crash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alive:_The_Story_of_the_Andes_Survivors
Jon’s recent Seiko purchases:
SKZ211K1 https://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-automatic-sports-89/seiko-5-automatic-map-meter-skz211-skz211k1-skz211k-mens-watch-824.html
SNZH57J1 https://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-automatic-sports-89/seiko-automatic-sports-japan-made-snzh57-snzh57j1-snzh57j-mens-watch-2298.html
Neil’s trip to Geckota: https://www.geckota.com
Reservoir Longbridge Club: https://www.reservoir-watch.com/en/collections/cars/longbridge/
Seiko 5: https://www.seikowatches.com/uk-en/products/5sports
Chronoswiss Flying Grand Regulator: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-chronoswiss-flying-grand-regulator-open-gear-resec
Delma Continental Bicompax Chronograph: https://www.delma.ch/product/continental41701-702-6-031/
Heuer Pasadena Chronograph: https://www.calibre11.com/ultimate-guide-heuer-pasadena-750-501/
Jack Heuer’s book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Heuer-Times-Life-Autobiography/dp/3375015712
The history of Baselworld: https://www.baselworld.com/en/the-show/history
How the Royal Oak evolved: https://www.timeandwatches.com/p/history-of-audemars-piguet-royal-oak.html
Jochen Rindt and Heuer: https://petrolicious.com/articles/jochen-rindt-wore-his-heuer-better-than-you-do
Veritime, owned by Neil Duckworth: https://veritime.co.uk
Motorsport and watches go together like gin and tonic. And for once the analogy is a good one, as there’s a slightly thirsty start to this episode (just check out the first clip below). But enough about drinking, as this episode is really all about driving. After the obligatory run through our latest inspirations, Anthony, Jon, Tim and Ben talk about their favourite motorsport-themed watches. And then we really let our imaginations run riot, by choosing which watch brands we would become ambassadors for, if only we were famous Formula 1 drivers. Finally, we meet somebody who’s making a real difference: Peter Knoflach, the founder of Racing Heroes, which is a unique initiative that allows injured veterans and disabled drivers to achieve their potential through motorsport. And of course, there’s going to be a very special watch to mark the occasion.
Show Notes;
Ice cold in Alex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouYKeeTz7Yw
2019 Wimbledon Final: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUikJi0Qhhw
Ferrari 312 V12: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_312
Heuer Silverstone: https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Tag%20Heuer/Silverstone/CAM2110-FC6258/16850/item/29182
Heuer Daytona: https://www.calibre11.com/heuer-daytona-series-overview/
Heuer Montreal: https://www.calibre11.com/heuer-montreal/
Heuer rally clocks: http://www.tagheuer-timing.com/en/stopwatches-hl880-heuer-rally-master
TAG Heuer Monaco: https://www.tagheuer.com/us/en/collection-monaco/collection-monaco.html
Rolex Daytona: https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona.html
Enicar Sherpa: https://www.acollectedman.com/products/enicar-sherpa-graph-300-jim-clark
TAG Heuer Autavia: https://www.tagheuer.com/us/en/timepieces/collections/tag-heuer-autavia/
Jochen Rindt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jochen_Rindt
Baltic Aquascape: https://www.watchgecko.com/baltic-aquascaphe-diver-blue-gilt-review/
Rolex Explorer 1: https://www.rolex.com/watches/explorer/m214270-0003.html
Panerai: https://www.panerai.com/gb/en/home.html
Audemars Piguet: https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3p7Du-eu6gIVG-ztCh3e3gOTEAAYASAAEgKg9fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
AP brakes: https://apracing.com
Pharrell Williams Richard Mille: https://www.richardmille.com/friends-and-partners/pharrell-williams
Can I have it like that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNxXAFMIeAY
Ebel: https://www.ebel.com
Jon gets the ball rolling by telling us about Schitt’s Creek, which is apparently a TV series rather than a place we’ve often found ourselves up without a paddle. It can be easy to get there by buying a watch on eBay too, but there are many weird and wonderful bargains to be had if you’re careful. Anthony and Ben cast a quick eye over what has caught their attention in the eBay classifieds, ranging from some Frankenstein-like monsters to other stuff that’s surprisingly cool. And there’s a theme emerging to what we’re liking this week: skin divers (lightweight dive watches that is, not people who go diving in the nude). There’s a great new dive watch out from Glashutte (which polarises opinion) and an established alternative from Delma, while Tim revisits his two wonderful vintage Caravelles.
Show Notes;
Schitt’s Creek: https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80036165
Endurance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvbkr-nXpjE
The truth in 24: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFwoxM1MiBw
What Ben found on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orologio-Watch-Cressi-Aquastar-Skin-Diver-Automatic-Top-Condition-Rare-SwissMade/283915816150
Anthony’s favourite watch this week: https://www.glashuette-original.com/new-versions-seaq-panorama-date
But here’s a good alternative: https://www.watchgecko.com/santiago-automatic-divers-watch-on-rubber-strap
Jon’s favourite watch this week: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/grand-seiko-sbgj237-and-sbgj239-introducing
Tim’s favourite watch this week: https://oris.ch/WH/hoelsteinedition2020
And there’s more bronze here: https://monochrome-watches.com/oris-holstein-edition-2020-bronze-hands-on-review-price/
Big news from Patek Philippe: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/patek-philippe-ref-6007a-001-calatrava-celebrating-the-new-manufacture-in-geneva-introducing
What Anthony spotted on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124219015817
Another cool eBay dive watch: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orologio-Watch-Avia-Marino-Skin-Diver-Top-Rare-Vintage-Swiss-Made/283914685531?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200423095753%26meid%3D765ace7f6a114cd58e5dd88ffa8bc749%26pid%3D101224%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D5%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D124219015817%26itm%3D283914685531%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c101224.m-1
Tim’s Caravelles: https://www.watchgecko.com/the-caravelle-sea-hunter-devil-diver/
So apart from the online Watches and Wonders show it’s been a few months of silent on the watch event news front. However it was recently confirmed that Geneva Watch Days has approval and is going ahead at the end of August. We sat down to chat about this news as well as recommending some interesting stuff that has caught our eye recently.
Sit back and enjoy!
Watches and Wonders
MCH (the group behind Baselworld) quoted losses:
“In the last three years, it has reported losses amounting to CHF310 million (about $320 million), and faces enormous losses this year due to canceled shows.” HODINKEE
F1 Drive To Survive
C'était un rendez-vous original 1976
Tudor P01 by @misterenthusiast
Tudor P01 Black Bay
H Moser x MB&F
The Mach Loop
The Green Ferrari that we all loved apart from Jon!
F1 driver signed Ferrari
Ferrari 250 GTO in blue
Something fun for today’s podcast as we share our deepest darkest watch confessions. All four of us share either one watch or one style of watch that we hate to say we kind of love. There are some interesting answers here and unfortunately for me, one clear choice that the other guys didn’t approve of.
Sit back and enjoy!
In this episode, I sit down with Ben to chat about a large topic in the watch industry, vintage watches. With the adoption of vintage designs, we have seen a lot of re-issue watches appear on the market which is met with huge success. But is this something that can withstand the test of time? Listen below for our thoughts on the interesting topic…
Show Notes;
OW P104S https://ow-watch.ch/products/ow-p-104-s
Tudor Black Bay https://www.tudorwatch.com/watches/black-bay-collection
Omega Diver 300m Bond https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-seamaster-diver-300m-omega-co-axial-master-chronometer-42-mm-21090422001001
Omega Spectre 300 LE https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/seamaster/seamaster-300/spectre-limited-edition/product
Black Dial Breitling Superocean 57 Rainbow https://www.watchgecko.com/the-latest-releases-from-the-breitling-summit-webcast/
Blue Dial Breitling Superocean 57 Rainbow https://www.breitling.com/gb-en/news/details/a-new-rainbow-to-honor-our-frontline-heroes-32969
Breitling 806 Navitimer Re-Issue https://www.watchgecko.com/the-breitling-navitimer-ref-806-baselworld-2019/
Zenith A384 Revival https://www.watchgecko.com/the-zenith-el-primero-a384-revival-review/
Zenith Chronomaster Revival Shadow https://www.watchgecko.com/zenith-chronomaster-revival-shadow/
@tfjj on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tfjj/?hl=en
@timvaux for the images from Spain! https://www.instagram.com/timvaux/?hl=en
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