What does it really mean when people say "Tina Turner taught Mick Jagger how to dance"? Join Sasha Geffen as they welcome author Maureen Mahon and Nkeki Obi Melekwe, who stars as Tina in the Broadway musical, to break down Tina's strategic navigation of gender and race in the music industry, embodying her on the broadway stage and, of course, those dance moves. From The Ike and Tina Turner Revue of the 1950s and 60s to the present day, Tina has proven she can rise to the top while refusing to conform to expectations. **CONTENT WARNING** This episode contains mentions of domestic violence and sexual and emotional abuse.