Leonard M. Lee shares his journey from growing up in Boston to becoming an advocate for diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). He discusses the origins of DEI and its current state, highlighting the need for real and meaningful change. Leonard reflects on his experiences in Boston and the challenges he faced as a Black man. He also shares stories of advocating for qualified Black individuals and the resistance he encountered. Throughout his career, Leonard has worked to create opportunities and support marginalized communities. In this conversation, Leonard M Lee shares his experiences of discrimination in the workplace and the importance of advocating for oneself. He also discusses the challenges and misconceptions surrounding diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) efforts. Leonard emphasizes the need for integrity and accountability in DEI work and encourages everyday individuals to support and promote diversity in their own spheres of influence. He concludes by highlighting the significance of love and empathy in creating real systemic change.