The bari and tenor sax player with the legendary band Morphine and now Vapors of Morphine carries on the legacy of the groundbreaking “low rock” trio with a new record, “Fear and Fantasy,” coming out this year. He joins the Troubled Men to catch up on the 20 years since the passing of visionary frontman, Mark Sandman. Tune in to hear just how low they can go.

Topics include the Capitol attack, MAGA riot fashion, Mike Love, a virtual greeting card, the Rouse’s boycott, Alex Trebek trivia, a first meeting, a trip to New Orleans, Jerome Deupree, Billy Conway, a Jeremy Lyons sighting, band origins, drugs, the Celtics, instrumental inventions, Chris Ballew, the Beatles, “Peter and the Wolf,” from tonette to saxophone, the Mass. College of Art & Design, guitar influences, a meteoric rise, world tours, Orchestra Morphine, self-limitation, the editing process, transitional lineups, future dates, and much more.

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Intro music: Styler/Coman

Break music: “Whisper” from “Yes” by Morphine

Outro music: “Golden Hour” from “Fear and Fantasy” by Vapors of Morphine