The record producer and recording engineer had spent years working with bands including the Pixies, Frank Black, and the Breeders before taking over the fabled Studio In The Country and returning it to its former glory. The recent release of the Geraniums’ “Hope Is Not For The Weak” represents the final 10 years of material recorded with him there at the mixing board. Always unflappable, Ben joins the Troubled Men in the hornets’ nest of Snake and Jake’s Christmas Club Lounge for a good going over.

Topics include the Clempire, last week’s episode, kids in wells, a Dave Clements cameo, a health kick, Mardi Gras, a Krewe Du Vieux party, a milk miracle, the Iguanas at Chickie Wah Wah, a remote recording, cutting cable, switching insurance, a Jesuit education, the Plaza in Lake Forest, school showers, a teenage band, Scott Durbin, engineer training, Chris Finney, Mike Napolitano, Kingsway Studio, Trina Shoemaker, Karen Brady, O’Henry Studios, Sound City, tour fatigue, moving to the Truck Farm, Kim Deal’s house, working with the Breeders, Debbie Farmer, an echo chamber, a good vibe, Dash Rip Rock, professionals, amateurs, a session band, Stan Ridgway, Daemon Shea, the last Circle Bar gig, One South Lark, All Girl Band, and much more.

Intro music: Styler/Coman

Break music: “This Is About This” by The Geraniums

Outro music: “St. Claude Avenue” from “Hope Is Not For The Weak” by The Geraniums

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