The second of a three part interview with one of the shapers of the show. The use of his name conjures up a particular style of story and an ambition to move the programme in a different direction. He was also on the front line as the show endured some of its most difficult battles - and he has plenty to say about his producer, his writers and the BBC's attitude towards the show.

Nominated charity: Cats Protection

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