Joining me is ufologist, James Clarkson. We’ll discuss UFO cases and the relevance of the history of debunking and disinformation efforts, such as the Turkey Springs/Travis Walton case; James' personal encounter with Philip Klass; and how it all helps us to understand the current status of UFO/UAP disclosure.

James Clarkson is an Investigator who has stood in two worlds for many years – a career professional investigator in the criminal justice field and as a lifelong researcher of the UFO Mystery. He has been a plainclothes military police investigator, a 20-year career city police officer and fraud investigator who has had many titles: patrol supervisor, detective sergeant, fatal accident team manager and training officer. After retiring with 20 years’ service, he became a child abuse detective and then he completed another decade of service as a fraud investigator for a Washington state agency. For over 30 years he has studied the mystery of UFOs with the same attention to detail that he applied to criminal investigations. He was an Investigator for the Mutual UFO Network from 1987 to 2017. He served as the Washington State Director for his last 10 years in MUFON. For more information visit: https://jamesclarksonufo.com/

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