In this conversation, Olivia Fox and Ken Johnson discuss the recent election results, focusing on the feelings of disappointment and anger among Black women voters. They reflect on the role of Black women in politics, the impact of voter turnout, and the challenges ahead for representation in future elections. The discussion highlights the intersection of race and gender in voting behavior and the need for a more inclusive political landscape. In this conversation, Ken Johnson and Olivia discuss the current political landscape, focusing on the implications of Trump's presidency, the judicial system, and the emotional toll on communities, particularly among marginalized groups. They express concerns about the future of voting rights, social services, and the impact of political decisions on everyday lives. The dialogue also touches on the feelings of despair and fatigue among voters, especially Black women, and the need for self-care and activism in response to political disappointments.