On the latest episode of NBA TakeDown, Jon and Shawn are joined by Dexter Henry of the New York Post. The begin with the Takeoff, dropping their takes on the depressing Kings, player podcasts, and the unfathomable start to Nikola Jokic's season. Then they get into weeds on the top 10 big men in the NBA right now. Debates include how large the gap is between Jokic and everyone else (and how often we've seen a gap this large in modern sports history), Wemby vs Giannis for the second spot, has Sungun surpassed KAT, is it too early to consider Jalen Duren a top 5 NBA center, are we sleeping on Chet Holmgren, and whether the Cavs would be better off with Pascal Siakam in place of Evan Mobley.

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