Host Christine Cardoso is joined by Julie Lalonde -a women's rights advocate, author, and educator - to discuss about how the Canadian author Alice Munro, chose to take her husband's side when her daughter came forward with a sexual abuse case against her husband even after he pled guilty in court. It’s easy to frame Munro choosing her abusive husband over her innocent child as uniquely evil but it’s not. It is astoundingly rare for a family to rally around a survivor of sexual violence, period.