Dr. Carolyn Roy-Bornstein — pediatrician, author, and writer-in-residence — joins host Dr. Lillian Liang Emlet to talk about what it actually takes to flourish in medicine. From evidence-based gratitude practices to reflective writing, they explore how healthcare professionals can reclaim joy, build resilience, and lead with self-compassion.
0:37 - Meet Dr. Carolyn Roy-Bornstein
2:11 - From nurse to physician: a unique perspective
3:30 - What she wishes healthcare professionals knew earlier
4:46 - The Milk Duds story: finding meaning in small moments
8:38 - Gratitude's complicated reputation in healthcare
12:23 - "Broaden and Build" theory
14:38 - What people get wrong about resilience
19:49 - Self-compassion as a clinical & leadership skill
20:31 - Self-kindness & common humanity
21:22 - Joy, meaning, and flourishing in medicine
22:14 - Sacred moments no one talks about
27:23 - About the new book & where to find Dr. Roy-Bornstein
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WebsiteYoutubeSpotify AppleNewsletterInstagramFacebookLinkedInMentioned in the episode:
https://sps.columbia.edu/person/rita-charon-md-phd
Tyler J. VanderWeele, MD Human Flourishing
https://hfh.fas.harvard.edu/people/tyler-j-vanderweele
Suzanne Segerstrom, MD, author of Breaking Murphy’s Law
https://health.oregonstate.edu/directory/suzanne-segerstrom
https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Murphys-Law-Optimists-Pessimists/dp/1593855923
Beyond Moral Injury by Lisa Rosenbaum, MD
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38265727/
Hong Kong gratitude study:
Cheng SK, Tsui PK, Lam JH. Improving mental health in health care practitioners: randomized controlled trial of a gratitude intervention. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology. 2015;83(1):177–186.
https://www.ovid.com/journals/jccpy/abstract/10.1037/a0037895~improving-mental-health-in-health-care-practitioners?redirectionsource=fulltextview
Martin Seligman’s Positive Psychology study with nurses:
Luo, Y., Li, H., Plummer, V., Cross, W. M., Lam, L., Guo, Y., . . . Zhang, J. (2019). An evaluation of a positive psychological intervention to reduce burnout among nurses. Archives of Psychiatric Nursing, 33(6), 186-191.
https://www.psychiatricnursing.org/article/S0883-9417(18)30463-1/abstract
Kristin Neff, MD UT Austin self-compassion
https://centerformsc.org/pages/kristin-neff-co-founder
University of Michigan Sacred Moments research
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2834653?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_jamajno&utm_term=17169948338&utm_campaign=article_alert&linkId=826352667
https://www.michiganmedicine.org/well-being-michigan-medicine/sacred-moments-human-connection-health-care-and-well-being
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