In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we dive into the evolving role of corporate treasury and explore how it can shift from a traditional cost center to a strategic business partner. Our guest, Kurt Smith, Director at Marengo Capital and Vice President of the Australian Corporate Treasury Association, shares actionable insights on how treasury teams can move beyond operational functions and start driving enterprise value. We explore how treasurers can help define risk appetite, optimize capital allocation, and influence key business decisions. From understanding the strategic importance of metrics like ROIC and WACC to navigating internal relationships and regulatory discussions, this episode is packed with practical advice for any treasury professional looking to elevate their impact.

Kurt Smith draws from decades of experience in fund management, derivatives trading, and treasury consulting to explain how corporate finance teams can move upstream in the value chain. He breaks down what it means to be a strategic treasurer, how to optimize working capital through better cash conversion cycles, and why financial acumen should be embedded across treasury teams. We also discuss the state of treasury in Australia, how ACTA supports professionals through networking and education, and how treasurers can embrace AI to free up time for higher-value work.

1. How to reposition treasury from a cost center to a value-adding business partner
2. The importance of aligning treasury with enterprise risk appetite and capital allocation
3. Why understanding ROIC and WACC is critical for measuring impact
4. How to improve working capital through smarter cash conversion and internal advocacy
5. Real-world examples of building treasury influence through operational and regulatory engagement
6. How ACTA is raising the bar for treasury professionals in Australia
7. Where AI fits into the future of strategic treasury

[00:00] – Introduction & AFP Partnership ($100 Off CTP Certification)

[01:00] – Kurt Smith’s Background and Role at ACTA

[03:03] – What Treasury Departments Typically Focus On

[04:39] – Core Treasury Functions: Cash, Risk, and Funding

[06:15] – From Cost Center to Value Creation Unit

[09:12] – Defining and Influencing Risk Appetite

[13:36] – Operational vs. Strategic Treasury

[17:28] – KPIs that Matter: ROIC, WACC, and Enterprise Risk

[20:59] – Turning Treasury into a Profit Center

[26:00] – Strategic Cash Flow Management & Internal Advocacy

[30:37] – Case Study: Streamlining Insurance with Tech

[34:51] – Cash Conversion Cycle and Working Capital Optimization

[41:50] – Creating a Competitive Internal Market for Capital

[46:00] – Real-Time Cost of Capital: Why Treasury Should Own It

[55:00] – Treasury in Australia: Opportunities & Challenges

[01:03:00] – ACTA’s Role in Supporting Treasury Professionals

[01:10:00] – AI, Digital Tools & the Future of Strategic Treasury

[01:24:48] – Final Thoughts & How to Connect with Kurt

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we dive into the complex but essential world of commodity risk management with Olivier Kaczmarek, Partner at O2 Finance and a seasoned treasury consultant. We discuss how companies can identify, assess, and mitigate their exposure to commodity price fluctuations through both strategic planning and operational tools. From forecasting exposure and selecting the right systems to aligning strategy across procurement and finance, this episode sheds light on how corporates can proactively manage commodity volatility. We also discuss real-world examples like how Ryanair saved €1.4 billion through effective fuel hedging and why financial derivatives should be your last line of defense, not the first. Whether you're exposed to gas, metals, or oil, this discussion offers a clear roadmap for building a solid hedging framework that goes far beyond the treasury desk.

Olivier Kaczmarek shares his proven approach for helping multinational companies mitigate commodity exposure. With over 20 years of experience in the field, Olivier explains how to identify implicit versus explicit risk, the importance of aligning your hedging strategy with market behavior, and what KPIs you should be tracking to measure success. From system implementation to pitching the project to the CFO, this episode is full of strategic and practical insights for modern treasury teams.

1. The four types of commodity risks: direct vs. indirect, explicit vs. implicit
2. How to forecast commodity exposure based on sales and production data
3. Why financial hedging comes last in a complete risk management strategy
4. Real-life examples of how companies like Ryanair use commodity hedging
5. Common tools used in commodity risk management (SAP, FIS, Orchestrade)
6. How to align strategy between procurement, finance, and treasury
7. Building internal awareness and pitching risk projects to the C-suite
8. KPI strategies to evaluate risk performance and decision-making

 [00:00] Introduction and AFP Partnership (Get $100 Off CTP Certification)

[01:22] Why commodity risk is often overlooked in treasury

[02:51] Forecasting energy, input, and production exposure

[05:18] Using supplier price strategies and arbitrage

[06:21] Understanding direct vs. indirect, explicit vs. implicit risk

[10:57] How pricing strategies protect brands from volatility

[13:06] Ryanair's €1.4B gain from fuel hedging

[14:16] Strategic hedging vs. following the competition

[15:24] Tools and software used for commodity risk

[17:09] Hedging vs. operational decisions: which comes first

[19:14] Building your strategy from the ground up

[21:52] When financial derivatives are the right move

[24:30] Operational ideas: integration, re-engineering, 3R model

[26:36] KPIs, the monkey benchmark, and measuring value

[28:12] Pitching a risk project to the CFO

[30:27] Who should own commodity risk management

[31:31] Where to learn more about O2 Finance and Olivier

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we dive into the world of commodity risk management with Olivier Kaczmarek, Partner at O2 Finance and a seasoned treasury consultant. With over 20 years of experience advising multinational companies on treasury systems and risk strategies, Olivier helps us break down where commodity risk arises, why it’s often overlooked, and how companies can manage it more effectively.

Olivier Kaczmarek shares insights from real client work across manufacturing and energy sectors, explaining how natural hedging, pricing alignment, and internal coordination can mitigate risk, often more effectively than derivatives. His clear, practical approach offers a fresh perspective on making commodity risk a formal part of corporate treasury strategy.

• What commodity price risk really means in a corporate setting
• How commodity exposure arises across procurement, production, and sales
• Why most treasurers overlook commodity risk, and why that needs to change
• The role of natural hedges and pricing contracts in mitigating risk
• Why analyzing contracts and internal pricing mechanisms is more powerful than you think

• [00:00] – Introduction & AFP Certification Promo
• [01:29] – Why Commodity Risk Management Matters More Than Ever
• [03:02] – What Is Commodity Risk? The Focus on Price Volatility
• [04:00] – Procurement, Production & Sales: How Exposure Spreads
• [06:25] – Natural Hedges and the Myth of “Just Passing on Costs”
• [08:30] – Treasurers vs. Buyers: Who Owns the Risk?
• [12:54] – Common At-Risk Commodities and Vulnerable Industries
• [14:56] – Identifying and Analyzing Exposure: The Toughest Part
• [16:59] – Real Case: Naturally Hedged Without Knowing It
• [19:00] – No Market, No Problem? Proxy Hedges and Pricing Sync
• [20:39] – Aligning Sales and Procurement to Manage Risk Internally

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we discuss the intricacies of operating a treasury function in China, one of the most highly regulated and misunderstood markets in the world. Damian Glendinning, former Group Treasurer of Lenovo and founder of Complex Countries, helps us unpack the challenges of treasury management in China, from regulatory ambiguity to the unique roles of Alipay and WeChat Pay. We cover how foreign companies can navigate this distinct financial landscape, including legal workarounds like entrustment loans, limitations around cross-border flows, and the impact of China’s evolving global strategy.

Damian shares insights from decades of hands-on experience, having led treasury operations in China during his time at IBM and Lenovo. He offers a nuanced, practical perspective on how treasurers can operate effectively in a market where the rules are complex and constantly changing.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• How China’s banking sector transitioned from state-run distribution to commercial banking
• Why are regulations in China often interpreted and enforced in flexible ways
• How companies navigate cash pooling with tools like entrustment loans
• The rise of tech giants like Alipay and WeChat Pay in filling banking gaps
• What treasurers need to know about China’s efforts to reduce reliance on USD and SWIFT

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps

[00:00] – Introduction & AFP Certification Promo

[01:50] – Why China Is a Focus for Corporate Treasurers

[03:19] – Misconceptions About China’s Culture and Structure

[15:31] – Evolution of the Banking System: State to Commercial

[20:56] – WeChat Pay, Alipay & Financial Innovation

[28:02] – Foreign Companies and Banking Limitations

[33:41] – Entrustment Loans & Cash Pooling Workarounds

[46:02] – Cross-Border Lending and Capital Flows

[49:58] – Renminbi, SWIFT, and De-Dollarization Strategies

[56:26] – The Bigger Picture: Global Integration vs. Isolation

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we speak with Amol Dhargalkar, Managing Partner and Chairman at Chatham Financial, to explore how today’s volatile interest rate environment is impacting treasury teams, capital markets, and debt structuring strategies. Amol unpacks practical strategies for funding, risk management, and hedging, along with a Treasury 101 breakdown of derivatives and cross-currency swaps. If you're looking for clear, strategic guidance on navigating financial risk, this is a must-listen episode.

Amol Dhargalkar leads Chatham Financial’s corporate advisory practice and brings over two decades of experience in helping multinationals and global institutions build resilient capital structures. Under his leadership, Chatham combines advisory expertise with advanced technology, supporting clients with solutions across derivatives, capital markets, and risk management.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• Why the current macroeconomic environment is seen as a "Goldilocks" economy, and why many treasurers disagree
• How companies can manage funding in a high-rate environment through diversification and capital structure planning
• The growing role of cross-currency swaps and interest rate derivatives in risk mitigation
• Why simpler FX hedging strategies often outperform complex options in volatile markets
• The evolution of debt structuring, private capital markets, and the impact on both investment-grade and high-yield issuers

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps 

 [00:00] - Introduction & CTP Certification Promo

[01:24] - Economic Outlook: The "Goldilocks" Scenario Explained

[04:34] - What High-Interest Rates Mean for Treasurers

[08:29] - Structuring for Resilience: Diversification & Laddering

[10:35] - Investment Grade vs. High Yield Funding Tactics

[14:15] - Cash Investment Strategies in a High-Yield World

[16:50] - How Rates Impact Debt Structuring & Hedging

[27:06] - The LIBOR Transition & Derivatives Market Evolution

[39:13] - FX Risk Management: Keeping It Simple

[46:53] - AI, Data, and the Future of Treasury Risk Tools

[49:03] - Chatham Financial’s Global Advisory Mission

[56:38] - Final Thoughts on Long-Term Planning & Resilience

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we sit down with Royston Da Costa, Assistant Treasurer at Ferguson, to explore the intersection of digitization, cybersecurity, and treasury operations. Royston shares his expertise on the evolution of technology in treasury, the role of AI, and the crucial importance of cybersecurity in financial operations. Whether you're a treasury professional or just interested in the future of finance, this episode is packed with insights.

Royston Da Costa is the Assistant Treasurer at Ferguson, a $30 billion North American distributor of plumbing and heating products. With 35 years of experience in treasury, Royston has been at the forefront of Ferguson’s digital transformation journey. He is also a member of the Treasury Dragons, evaluating fintech solutions for treasury professionals. His expertise spans cash flow forecasting, AI in treasury, cybersecurity, and digital transformation.

• The benefits of digitizing treasury operations: How automation improves efficiency and decision-making.
• Cybersecurity risks in treasury: Why treasurers must stay vigilant and implement strong security measures.
• Advanced cybersecurity strategies: Best practices and emerging trends for protecting corporate finances.
• How AI is transforming treasury: The impact of AI on cash flow forecasting, digital twins, and process automation.
• Treasury technology adoption challenges: Common barriers to innovation and how to overcome them.

[00:00] - Introduction

[02:48] - Royston’s Treasury Journey & Digital Evolution

[15:22] - The Role of Cloud-Based Solutions in Treasury

[20:30] - AI in Treasury: The Future is Here

[35:17] - Cybersecurity in Treasury: What Treasurers Need to Know

[57:14] - Treasury Dragons: Evaluating Fintech Solutions

[01:06:09] - The Future of Treasury: KYC, AI, and Fintech Innovation

[01:21:01] - ESG & Treasury’s Role in Sustainability

[01:24:15] - Final Thoughts & Where to Learn More

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we take a deep dive into foreign exchange (FX) risk management in Latin America, an economically diverse and often volatile region. Our guest, Matheus Zani, an FX risk management expert at Diaglo, breaks down the complexities of restricted currencies, hedging strategies, and how corporations navigate currency risk in Latam. Whether you're a corporate treasurer, investor, or just interested in global finance, this episode provides valuable insights into managing FX risks in emerging markets.

Matheus Zani is an expert in foreign exchange risk management, particularly in emerging markets. He works with Diaglo, a fintech-driven advisory firm that specializes in helping corporations and investors navigate the complexities of FX hedging. With years of experience in Latam markets, he brings a wealth of knowledge on currency volatility, hedging strategies, and innovative risk management solutions.

• Why some Latin American currencies are restricted and how governments regulate them
• How FX risk impacts foreign investments and business operations in LATAM
• The best hedging instruments for managing currency risk in emerging markets
• How technology, AI, and machine learning are transforming FX risk management
• The impact of inflation and high interest rates on treasury activities

•  [00:00:00] Introduction & Partnership with AFP
•  [00:03:03] Understanding Restricted Currencies
•  [00:09:22] Impact of Restricted Currencies on Foreign Investment
•  [00:16:39] Country-Specific FX Risk Trends in Latin America
•  [00:25:31] FX Risk Management Strategies for Corporations
•  [00:42:22] The Role of Technology in FX Risk Management
•  [00:48:27] Deep Dive into Non-Deliverable Forwards (NDFs)
•  [01:07:05] Hedging Costs in Latin America vs. Other Regions
•  [01:15:24] Final Thoughts & Where to Find More Information

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we explore the evolving role of treasury professionals, the skills required for 2025, and the impact of international teams on treasury functions with Pieter de Kiewit from Treasurer Search. Pieter shares his expertise on treasury recruitment, the growing importance of soft skills, and how treasurers can navigate an ever-changing financial landscape.

Pieter de Kiewit is a specialist in treasury recruitment and the founder of Treasurer Search, a niche recruitment firm focused on placing top treasury talent across Europe. With deep insights into the skills, trends, and challenges in treasury, he provides valuable career advice for professionals looking to grow in this field.

• The essential skills treasurers need to develop for 2025
• The increasing importance of soft skills, such as communication and adaptability
• How cultural differences impact international treasury teams
• Best practices for hiring and retaining treasury talent
• The role of AI in treasury and its potential impact on the profession

• [00:00:00] – Introduction & AFP Partnership
• [00:01:49] – Key Skills for Treasury Professionals in 2025
• [00:03:04] – Key Skills for 2025
• [00:07:26] – Emerging Trends and Changes in Treasury
• [00:15:30] – How Treasurers Can Advance Their Careers
• [00:31:00] – The Impact of Cultural Differences in International Treasury Teams
• [00:45:46] – What Hiring Managers Should Look for in Treasury Professionals
• [00:57:36] – How Companies Can Attract & Retain Top Treasury Talent
• [01:01:32] – The Role of AI in Treasury and Future Automation Trends
• [01:03:47] – Where to Learn More

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we explore credit ratings and their impact on corporate finance with Alex Griffiths from Fitch Ratings. He explains how treasurers can manage credit risk, navigate inflation, and improve their company’s rating. We also discuss the growing role of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) factors in financial decision-making.  

Alex Griffiths is a seasoned financial expert leading corporate ratings at Fitch Ratings, one of the top three credit rating agencies globally. With deep experience in credit risk assessment, he provides insights into how companies are rated, the role of corporate treasury in securing a strong credit rating, and how ESG considerations are reshaping financial markets.

• How credit ratings are determined and why they matter for companies and investors
• The role of corporate treasury in managing and improving credit ratings
• How interest rates and inflation impact corporate credit risk
• The challenges of integrating ESG factors into credit ratings
• How companies can proactively manage their credit standing in a volatile market

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:02:49] What is a Credit Rating?

[00:06:24] Why Credit Rating Matters for Companies

[00:11:03] How Fitch Assigns Credit Ratings

[00:26:47] The Role of Corporate Treasury in Credit Ratings

[00:41:22] ESG & Credit Ratings

[01:03:02] The Impact of Interest Rates & Inflation on Credit Ratings

[01:11:15] The Impact of Recent Bank Failures on Credit Markets

[01:14:37] Final Thoughts & Where to Learn More

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In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we dive into how AI is transforming Treasury with Bob Stark from Kyriba. From cash forecasting to fraud detection, AI is reshaping financial decision-making. Bob shares insights on predictive analytics, automation, and APIs, exploring both the opportunities and challenges AI brings to the Treasury.

Bob Stark is a leading voice in financial technology, specializing in liquidity, payments, and risk management. As part of Kyriba, a top Treasury Management System (TMS) provider, Bob drives multi-product go-to-market strategies, shaping the future of the Treasury through innovation and AI.

• The current and potential applications of AI in Treasury
• The role of APIs and how they help treasurers integrate AI into their workflows
• Predictive AI vs. Generative AI – How Treasury Can Leverage both
• Fraud detection and risk management with AI-powered insights
• The future of AI in Treasury – Will AI ever fully replace human decision-making?

• [00:00:00] Introduction
• [00:03:04] AI’s Role in Treasury
• [00:06:10] Understanding Machine Learning in Treasury
• [00:14:00] The Future of AI in Treasury
• [00:27:15] The Challenges & Limitations of AI
• [00:34:30] Can AI Make Financial Decisions?
• [00:45:18] The Power of APIs in AI Adoption
• [01:08:13] AI for Cash Flow Forecasting
• [01:28:14] AI’s Ultimate Potential in Treasury
• [01:35:49] Final Thoughts & Where to Learn More

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