The Hunting Wives star Katie Lowes joins to give the scoop on Netflix’s latest soapy sapphic mystery, her friendship with Shonda Rhimes, and learning to shoot a gun on set. Erin and Alyssa also discuss Melania’s pathetic attempt at diplomacy, Gavin Newsom’s Trump-trolling social media blitz, and why women are leaving the workplace. They also sound off on the male NFL cheerleader culture war and the Oval Office’s new MAGA merch closet.

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Melania Trump Appeals to Putin to Protect Children (NYT 8/18)

5 things to know about Gavin Newsom’s plan to redraw California’s election maps (Cal Matters 8/18)

Why So Many Women Are Quitting the Workforce (Time 8/4)

Study finds giving pregnant women cash transfers cuts infant mortality in half (Oxford 8/18)