Over the past few weeks, two people were killed by federal law enforcement agents in Minneapolis during immigration enforcement actions directed by the Trump White House. In this conversation, we don't delve into immigration policy or whether the shootings are legally justified. Instead, we focus on why and how local prosecutors should investigate allegations of misconduct by federal agents. Local investigations are essential for creating an independent, public record — one that ensures transparency and maintains community trust. And John Chisholm is the perfect guest for this topic: as the former Milwaukee DA, he oversaw investigations that resulted in both pursuing and declining charges against police, earning criticism from both sides. Drawing on 18 years in office, John explains his approach to police-involved fatalities, how federal–local cooperation has traditionally worked, what's shifted in Minneapolis, and practical advice for prosecutors addressing federal misconduct today.

DA Dalia Racine of Douglas County, GA is unique in her willingness to be extremely candid about everything from her personal background to what she has learned about crime and humanity from her time as a prosecutor. As you'll hear in this episode, Dalia's career has been shaped by her own experience as a survivor of child sex abuse. But what she went through as a child has made her approach to sex crimes cases much more nuanced than you might expect.

The road to Dalia's current position was exceptionally challenging for a number of political reasons – all of which she discusses in this episode. And her victory in 2020 marked the first time a woman of color won that office in its history. This episode explores how one prosecutor's tenacity, humility, and deep capacity for empathy can shape their approach to the job.

Jared grew up in Atlanta in a Jewish family that instilled in him the concept of tikkun olam, or the idea that we each have a role to play in repairing the world. This became the driving force behind his career path---which included years as a federal civil rights prosecutor----and eventually led to founding the Justice Innovation Lab, which uses data to improve public safety while reducing harm. Jared seamlessly connects deeply personal values with rigorous analytical work. Throughout our conversation, he uses words like "healing," "repair," and "safety" – not as abstractions, but as the concrete goals behind every data point and policy recommendation his team produces.

Memphis has become the center of intense federal law enforcement activity—and the results are more complex than you might expect. The Memphis Safe Task Force issued over 4,000 traffic citations, made more than 1,000 arrests, and conducted 206 firearm seizures in just a couple weeks, creating a dramatic surge that's already stretching thin the community's court systems. In this episode, Shelby County District Attorney Steve Mulroy offers a rare inside look at how his office is managing this federal intervention. What he reveals might surprise you.

True Bill Talk's newest episode takes you inside a Tennessee State Senate Judiciary Committee hearing where state senators examined proposed legislation to eliminate felony murder and accomplice liability in Tennessee. These are complex doctrines with serious implications for people, especially if someone gets involved in a crime that results in another person's death – even if none of the perpetrators intended that someone be killed. In the episode, I break down how felony murder allows prosecutors to charge a getaway driver in the same way as the person who planned a robbery and pulled the trigger. I also explain why abolishing felony murder would be problematic, but that legislators have good reasons for wanting to modify the doctrine. Tennessee may not eliminate this controversial law anytime soon, but there does seem to be some interest in making changes -- maybe not this coming legislative session, but possibly sooner than we think.

Hillary Blout is the Founder and CEO of For the People. A former prosecutor, Hillary has been at the forefront of advocating for prosecutor-initiated re-sentencing (PIR) laws across the country. In this episode, we explore Hillary's compelling personal journey, including her experience growing up in a low-income, high-crime neighborhood. She shares how both her personal and professional background have shaped her perspectives on justice and community safety. We delved into her current focus on PIR laws, which empower prosecutors to revisit cases and reduce sentences for individuals who have demonstrated significant rehabilitation. The discussion includes how the re-sentencing process works, the involvement of victims in the process, and the impact of these laws on the lives of those released from prison earlier than their original sentences.

Sherry Boston has served as the District Attorney of DeKalb County, Georgia since 2017. But describing her just as a "local DA" doesn't capture her full impact. In addition to her work with us here at VPOPP, she's active in organizations like her state DA's association and the National Black Prosecutors' Association. She's also the lead plaintiff in a major lawsuit challenging a controversial Georgia law that gives the state power to remove locally elected prosecutors. In other words, Sherry is shaping the future of how prosecution works in Georgia and across the country. This interview will give you an in-depth look into her unique background and career path, including her experience growing up in the only Black family on her street in a white suburb, her evolution from being a die-hard defense attorney to an elected prosecutor, and how her personal background has shaped the way she approaches prosecution.

Byron Black was recently executed in Tennessee. This is not your typical capital case, however, because the current local district attorney actually agreed with the defense that Mr. Black's death sentence should be commuted to life in prison. However, the Tennessee Attorney General then took over the appeal and pushed for execution anyway. It's a perfect example of the growing tension between local prosecutors and state officials—and what happens when they disagree on life-or-death decisions. These are questions that don't have easy answers: What's a prosecutor's duty when defending decades-old convictions? And how do we balance finality in the justice system with evolving legal standards?

David Leavitt led the Utah County DA's office for 4 years before being voted out of office in 2022. David spent four years trying to rein in excessive plea deals, questioning his own office's outdated norms, and demanding real checks on police power. His approach earned him an intense backlash, and his 2022 re-election campaign became a referendum on the potential and limits of shaking up the status quo - but the real lessons are in why he ran for office in the first place, and how he tried to implement big changes.

Recently, with support from Microsoft, VPOPP worked with the Policing Project at NYU School of Law to produce a report about how artificial intelligence (AI) tools are impacting the work of prosecutors around the country. Katie Kinsey, the Policing Project's chief of staff and tech policy counsel, is a leading voice on what AI can do, should do, and will do in the criminal justice system in the years to come. Simply put, as the technology becomes less expensive, more powerful, and more commonly used, prosecutors owe it to themselves to understand how they can mitigate its risks while still using it to seek justice in their communities. This episode of True Bill Talk highlights the big themes from this paper -- as well as a few interesting observations that actually didn't make it into the final report.