True Bill Talk

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True Bill Talk episodes

  • DA Mulroy on Federal Agents in Memphis

    Memphis has become the center of intense federal law enforcement activity—and the results are more complex than you might expect. The Memphis Safe Task Force issued over 4,000 traffic citations, made more than 1,000 arrests, and conducted 206 firearm seizures in just a couple weeks, creating a dramatic surge that's already stretching thin the community's court systems. In this episode, Shelby County District Attorney Steve Mulroy offers a rare inside look at how his office is managing this federal intervention. What he reveals might surprise you.

    29 min
  • Mini TBT Episode: Will Tennessee Eliminate Felony Murder?

    True Bill Talk's newest episode takes you inside a Tennessee State Senate Judiciary Committee hearing where state senators examined proposed legislation to eliminate felony murder and accomplice liability in Tennessee. These are complex doctrines with serious implications for people, especially if someone gets involved in a crime that results in another person's death – even if none of the perpetrators intended that someone be killed. In the episode, I break down how felony murder allows prosecutors to charge a getaway driver in the same way as the person who planned a robbery and pulled the trigger. I also explain why abolishing felony murder would be problematic, but that legislators have good reasons for wanting to modify the doctrine. Tennessee may not eliminate this controversial law anytime soon, but there does seem to be some interest in making changes -- maybe not this coming legislative session, but possibly sooner than we think.

    19 min
  • Re-sentencing laws with Hillary Blout

    Hillary Blout is the Founder and CEO of For the People. A former prosecutor, Hillary has been at the forefront of advocating for prosecutor-initiated re-sentencing (PIR) laws across the country. In this episode, we explore Hillary's compelling personal journey, including her experience growing up in a low-income, high-crime neighborhood. She shares how both her personal and professional background have shaped her perspectives on justice and community safety. We delved into her current focus on PIR laws, which empower prosecutors to revisit cases and reduce sentences for individuals who have demonstrated significant rehabilitation. The discussion includes how the re-sentencing process works, the involvement of victims in the process, and the impact of these laws on the lives of those released from prison earlier than their original sentences.

    1 hr 12 min
  • Sherry Boston on Representation and Responsibility

    Sherry Boston has served as the District Attorney of DeKalb County, Georgia since 2017. But describing her just as a "local DA" doesn't capture her full impact. In addition to her work with us here at VPOPP, she's active in organizations like her state DA's association and the National Black Prosecutors' Association. She's also the lead plaintiff in a major lawsuit challenging a controversial Georgia law that gives the state power to remove locally elected prosecutors. In other words, Sherry is shaping the future of how prosecution works in Georgia and across the country. This interview will give you an in-depth look into her unique background and career path, including her experience growing up in the only Black family on her street in a white suburb, her evolution from being a die-hard defense attorney to an elected prosecutor, and how her personal background has shaped the way she approaches prosecution.

    1 hr 11 min
  • Mini TBT Episode: Tennessee's recent execution

    Byron Black was recently executed in Tennessee. This is not your typical capital case, however, because the current local district attorney actually agreed with the defense that Mr. Black's death sentence should be commuted to life in prison. However, the Tennessee Attorney General then took over the appeal and pushed for execution anyway. It's a perfect example of the growing tension between local prosecutors and state officials—and what happens when they disagree on life-or-death decisions. These are questions that don't have easy answers: What's a prosecutor's duty when defending decades-old convictions? And how do we balance finality in the justice system with evolving legal standards?

    11 min
  • David Leavitt from Utah County on Shaking Up the Status Quo

    David Leavitt led the Utah County DA's office for 4 years before being voted out of office in 2022. David spent four years trying to rein in excessive plea deals, questioning his own office's outdated norms, and demanding real checks on police power. His approach earned him an intense backlash, and his 2022 re-election campaign became a referendum on the potential and limits of shaking up the status quo - but the real lessons are in why he ran for office in the first place, and how he tried to implement big changes.

    1 hr 5 min
  • Katie Kinsey on AI and Prosecution

    Recently, with support from Microsoft, VPOPP worked with the Policing Project at NYU School of Law to produce a report about how artificial intelligence (AI) tools are impacting the work of prosecutors around the country. Katie Kinsey, the Policing Project's chief of staff and tech policy counsel, is a leading voice on what AI can do, should do, and will do in the criminal justice system in the years to come. Simply put, as the technology becomes less expensive, more powerful, and more commonly used, prosecutors owe it to themselves to understand how they can mitigate its risks while still using it to seek justice in their communities. This episode of True Bill Talk highlights the big themes from this paper -- as well as a few interesting observations that actually didn't make it into the final report.

    46 min
  • Rafiah Muhammad-McCormick and Valerie Craig on what victims need and deserve

    On this episode, Alissa speaks with two women who are reshaping what victim advocacy is and what it could do for our criminal justice system.

    Rafiah Muhammad-McCormick became an advocate after her son was killed in her backyard. Today, she works with Tennesseans for Alternatives to the Death Penalty and Rodney's Village, a nonprofit that she founded. In addition, Rafiah volunteers as a victim's advocate for Mothers Over Murder. Valerie Craig is the co-founder of Tennessee Voices for Victims. She has spent decades supporting crime victims, including in the wake of mass violence. She also teaches victim impact classes inside prisons, a reminder that the people we prosecute are often victims themselves. These remarkable women make it clear that "victim advocates" aren't a monolith in the way they think about criminal prosecution and what it would take to keep communities safe. This conversation offers insights that prosecutors, policymakers, law enforcement officers, and other activists will find fascinating.

    1 hr 8 min
  • The Executive Order Targeting Prosecutors with Carissa Hessick and Brenner Fissell

    On April 28, 2025, the Trump Administration issued an executive order aimed broadly at local law enforcement -- but one section stood out. Section 5 of the Order represents a statement of how the Administration intends to get involved in decisions made by local prosecutors. In this special episode of True Bill Talk, we invite two well-known criminal justice scholars – Professors Carissa Hessick (UNC School of Law) and Brenner Fissell (Villanova Law) — for a deep dive into the language of the executive order, its legal basis, and its political context.

    29 min
  • Torry Johnson, Former DA From Nashville, Has Some Concerns

    Torry Johnson was the District Attorney of Davidson County, Tennessee for 26 years. In this conversation, Torry shared his thoughts about the so-called "progressive prosecutor" movement, the right-ward shift in Tennessee's politics, and how he thinks about the role of the DA when the job has become heavily politicized.

    1 hr 5 min

About True Bill Talk

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From the Vanderbilt Project on Prosecution Policy, True Bill Talk is about getting to the truth of criminal prosecution in America right now: what it is, how people experience it, and how prosecutors can better serve their communities. Each episode of the podcast will feature in-depth conversations between Vanderbilt Law Professor Alissa Marque Heydari and prosecutors, policy experts, and advocates with diverse perspectives on the challenges and responsibilities of prosecution.