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From PI to CONNECT. From data platforms to data trust.
On True North ๐งญ, I sat down with John Baier, VP Solution Strategy at AVEVA, and one of the architects behind the evolution of the PI System into todayโs industrial data platforms.
John has spent decades at the core of industrial data, from Rockwell Automation to OSIsoft, and now AVEVA. He has seen the stack evolve from historians to cloud platforms to AI-driven systems. In this session, we go deep into what actually changed over the last 20 years, what didnโt, and why data reliability is now the limiting factor for scaling industrial AI.
We discuss the transition from PI to CONNECT, the reality of industrial data architectures, and why connecting and contextualizing data is only part of the story if the underlying signals cannot be trusted.
Key takeaways of this episode:
๐ง Industrial data problems didnโt disappear; they scaled
๐งฑ PI solved trust locally, CONNECT solves scale and collaboration
๐ Data availability โ data reliability
๐งช Bronze-layer data determines whether anything downstream works
๐ค Radical collaboration requires data to be graded and understood
๐ซ Connecting bad data scales uncertainty
We also covered:
โ๏ธ Why the industrial data stack is layered, not centralized
๐ CONNECT vs hyperscalers: complementary, not competitive
๐ Where the medallion architecture breaks in OT
๐ Why data observability is not enough without validation
๐ค Agentic AI and the risk of scaling bad decisions faster
๐งฉ MCP and the shift of value from apps to data layers
โก AI economics, infrastructure constraints, and what happens next
On True North, I sat down with Julian Pereira, VP Product & Engineering at TrendMiner. ย
The company I founded and led for over a decade before its acquisition in 2018.
Julian and I go back to a cold LinkedIn message in 2017.
He'd seen what data validation looked like before it could scale, and he wanted to build something different.
He joined TrendMiner in customer success, moved into product, and now runs product and engineering. Startup, Software AG acquisition, private equity buyout.ย
A few things we got into:
โ๏ธ Belsim โ TrendMiner: how validation went from a six-month project to part of an analytics workflow
๐ What actually changes after acquisition (startup โ corporate โ PE)
๐ง Why industrial AI projects still struggle to move from pilot to production
๐ค The shift from dashboards to copilots to agents
๐ Where industrial platforms fit in the emerging AI stack
What stuck with me:
โ Data availability is not the same as data trust
โ "Good enough" worked, but not anymore.ย
โ Validation was always needed: teams just absorbed the cost quietly
โ LLMs are non-deterministic; industry needs consistency and explainability
โ Fixing data downstream hides the real operational issue
โ The historian gap is real: context gets lost between sensor and model
When we built TrendMiner, trust in the data was a hidden cost.ย
With AI in the loop, it's the bottleneck.
Worth a listen if you're building, buying, or running industrial AI.
๐๏ธ True North Podcast
From assumed data to trusted decisions.
On True North ๐งญ, I sat down withย Raj Munusamy, Product Portfolio Manager for Data Platforms & Agentic AI at Saint-Gobain, a 350+ year-old industrial giant operating across 1,200+ manufacturing plants worldwide.
Raj is a rare bridge between worlds: automation & control, historians & OT systems, and modern cloud-scale data platforms and AI. In this session, we go deep into what really breaks when industrial data scales, and why data trust, not algorithms, is the limiting factor for AI in manufacturing.
We discuss Saint-Gobainโs Metriks manufacturing data platform, the reality of Bronze / Silver / Gold data layers, and the often-overlooked โhistorian gapโ where data-quality context is lost as signals move from sensors to dashboards and models.
Timeseer.AI engagement ๐ค
Timeseer.AI is deployed as the Trust Layer next to the historian, currently live across 70+ Saint-Gobain plants (and scaling) to continuously validate Bronze-layer time-series data, detect issues early, and restore confidence in the data that feeds dashboards and AI.
Key takeaways:
๐ง Data availability โ data trust
๐งช The Bronze layer is where trust is won or lost
๐ Missing, stale, drifting data silently kills dashboards and AI
๐งฉ Historians store data, not confidence
๐ซ Auto-fixing data can hide root causes in continuous manufacturing
We also covered:
โ๏ธ The โhistorian gapโ (Sensors โ PLC โ SCADA โ Historian)
๐ Why teams still spend massive time validating data
๐ Detect โ Score โ Resolve โ Serve as a trust framework
๐ ๏ธ Why Saint-Gobain chose a trust layer instead of building ad-hoc fixes
๐ What it takes to scale data trust across plants, teams, and use cases
No hype. No theory.
ย Just what needs to be true for industrial analytics, AI, and autonomy to scale.
๐๏ธ True North Podcast
Building for tomorrow, not just solving todayโs problem.
On True North ๐งญ, I sat down with Robert Feldmann, Director of Manufacturing Industry at Microsoft โ formerly Associate Partner at McKinsey and today also an industrial advisor to Timeseer.AI.ย At Microsoft, Robert helps manufacturers bridge the gap between shop-floor reality and cloud-scale AI, shaping how industrial companies move from automation to autonomy.
Key takeaways:
ย ๐ง AI is a processing engine.
ย โฝ Data quality is the fuel.
ย โ No trusted data, no reliable outcomes (+ why).
We also touched on:
ย ๐งฉ Fragmented industrial knowledge
ย ๐ Broken OTโIT workflows
ย โก Energy & compute constraints
ย ๐ญ Why factories that donโt adapt may disappear
ย ๐ AI as a platform shift, not a bubble
No hype. Just what needs to be true for AI to work in industrial reality.
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๐๐๐ถ๐น๐ฑ๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ ๐๐ผ๐บ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ผ๐, ๐ป๐ผ๐ ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐๐ผ๐น๐๐ถ๐ป๐ด ๐๐ผ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐โ๐ ๐ฝ๐ฟ๐ผ๐ฏ๐น๐ฒ๐บ.
On True North ๐งญ, I sat down with Stijn for a sharp conversation about strategy, AI, and long-term advantage.
We go way back, school friends, and today heโs one of the builders behind a Belgian unicorn in data governance.
What made this conversation special is where our worlds meet: OT and IT data quality and governance.ย
The point where operational reality meets enterprise decision-making, and where trust in data becomes non-negotiable.
๐๐๐ป ๐ณ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐: Amazon reportedly uses Wardley Mapping to support strategic decisions, even M&A thinking.
We talked about:
ย ๐งญ Wardley Mapping to see whatโs truly strategic vs already commoditized
๐๏ธ Why solving todayโs pain often creates tomorrowโs constraints
๐ How OT and IT data architectures converge in the age of AI
๐ค The road from todayโs AI toward AGI, and what that means for builders
โ๏ธ Balancing execution speed with strategic clarity
Big thanks to Hans de Leenheer for educating us on Wardley Mapping, and to Simon Wardley for inventing this powerful strategic lens.
If youโre new to it, start here: https://learnwardleymapping.com
๐ ๐บ๐ฎ๐๐๐ฒ๐ฟ๐ฐ๐น๐ฎ๐๐ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ฎ๐๐ฎ ๐ค๐๐ฎ๐น๐ถ๐๐, inspired by Gauravโs new book Data Qualityย ROI.
On this True North ๐งญ, I sat down with Gaurav Patole to explore how IT and OT finally meet when it comes to one universal truth: you canโt automate, govern, or trust what you canโt rely on.
We talked about how data governance can move from a checklist to a strategic advantage, and why data quality must evolve from IT policy to enterprise culture.
๐ฆ๐ผ๐บ๐ฒ ๐ต๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐น๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐๐:
๐ Where IT Data Quality meets OT Data Quality, and how trust has different meanings in each world
๐ฅ Who truly owns DQ, and why the technical DQ โ business DQ
โ๏ธ PPT model (People, Process, Technology) โ aligning teams and turning strategy into results
๐ง Newtonโs Laws of Data Quality, a creative analogy for inertia, force, and acceleration in data programs
๐งฉ DIY vs set-and-forget tooling โ finding the balance between control and scalability
๐ค AI needs DQ, and DQ needs AI, the two-way loop that defines the future
๐ Closing the loop โ using customer feedback to improve trust and reliability continuously
๐ Data Quality trends shaping the next 5โ10 years
This episode bridges the digital divide between business systems and industrial data โ a conversation for anyone building the foundation of trusted AI.
๐ง The Laws of Data Quality โ A Fireside Chat with Gaurav Patole
๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐๐๐ผ๐ฟ๐ถ๐ฒ๐: Where did data trust (or the lack of it) impact your business outcomes?ย The most insightful replies will receive a free copy of Gauravโs book.
๐ง From IoT Hype to AIoT Reality โ The Cumulocity Story with Bernd Gross
Some conversations arenโt just about technology; theyโre about vision coming full circle.
On True North ๐งญ, I sat down with Bernd Gross, co-founder and CEO of Cumulocity, for an honest talk about the evolution of IoT โ from the early hype to todayโs AI-powered reality.
Bernd built Cumulocity back in 2012, long before IoT was fashionable, with a bold but straightforward mission: Connect anything, analyze everything, and bring intelligence to the physical world.
Fast-forward to 2024 โ the team repurchased the company in a management buy-out, and it now stands as a leader in Gartnerโs Magic Quadrant for Industrial IoT platforms.
A few stories we touch:
๐ก The real reason behind the TrendMiner acquisition
๐ข Lessons from the Software AG years and the MBO that followed
๐ What it takes to land in Gartnerโs top-right quadrant
๐ธ๏ธ How to partner with hyperscalers who are also competitors
๐ค And Berndโs bold AIoT predictions for the decade ahead
๐ง From Historian to Infrastructure: The OSIsoft Story with Richard Beeson
Some conversations arenโt just interviews; theyโre tributes.
On True North, I sat down with Richard Beeson, former CTO of OSIsoft, for an honest talk about the company โ and the man โ that changed both our lives: Pat Kennedy.
Richard spent 32 years at OSIsoft. Before AVEVA, OSIsoft quietly built the nervous system of industry with the PI System,ย and it still runs the worldโs plants today.
A few stories we touch, without giving it all away:
Itโs a candid conversation and a small tribute to a founder who built for engineers first and built something that kept working.
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