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Major General Nilforoushan's body has arrived in Mashhad. He will be subsequently taken to Isfahan, where he will be buried.

About the assassination by the Israeli regime—a common practice by the Israeli regime—of top commanders, high-ranking officials of the resistance front in the region. I want you to break that down for us.

It's not been successful in the past. And we can see that with, for example, the Hezbollah resistance movement. The assassination of high ranking officials will not deter the efforts and the power and the persistence of these resistance groups. The Zionists don't seem to understand the first rule of strategy in these matters, which is that you don't want to create martyrs. But they are going around creating all kinds of martyrs. General Nilforoushan is now so beloved and such an inspiration to others that there will be dozens rising up to try to carry on the struggle that he was willing to risk his life to push forward.

This is just kind of an elementary aspect of warfare that goes back millennia. And the Zionists don't get it. Or, you know, maybe at some level they do. Maybe they're just evil and they have to behave according to their evil cultural programming and they can't understand good people. They can't understand that good people, when their heroic leaders are willing to risk their lives and then get martyred, rally behind that cause.

So it doesn't work. And some of the Zionists know that it doesn't work. In fact, the main spokesperson for the Israeli intelligence apparatus—and specifically the people who have been running around killing folks for decades now, Ronan Bergman, in his book Rise and Kill First, shows that it hasn't worked. The Zionists killed off all sorts of PLO people in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s, and they capped it off by apparently murdering Yasser Arafat, although that's not in Bergman's book, in the early 2000s.

And yet, as Bergman points out in the book, rather acerbically for somebody who's basically a Mossad stenographer, this has simply produced a more dedicated and in many cases actually greater leadership in the resistance. And by decapitating the PLO and largely neutering that organization, they created an even stronger resistance, the current Islamic resistance, a coalition of many groups. And this Islamic resistance is even more likely to rally behind its martyrs than the secular resistance was that they were able to decapitate in the past.

Every time they create a new martyr, they create a bigger problem for themselves. And even people like Ronan Bergman and his Israeli intelligence sources seemingly know this, but they can't stop themselves because—well, I guess they're evil, and evil has to go lash out at good, and the evil people plot to kill the good people.

But "they plot and God plots and ultimately God is the best of planners."

And before we leave you, Mr. Barrett, I also want you to address the ongoing situation in Lebanon and Gaza, the continued Israeli crimes that are being committed in the West Asia region, the attacks and killing of civilians in Lebanon, the ongoing genocide in Gaza, which has passed the one-year mark.

Once again, the Zionists are showing that what they do best is slaughtering helpless, unarmed civilians, especially children, babies, their mothers. This is what they're dedicated to doing. They're dedicated to trying to exterminate the people of Palestine so they can steal their land. That's what Zionism has always been about. And when they face actual military resistance, they don't do so well.

And right now, we're seeing this illustrated once again. Just as in Gaza, where they were unable to achieve their goals, which were to eliminate Hamas and bring back their captives alive. Now in Lebanon, they have been stopped practically at the border. They haven't been able to progress much into Lebanon. And now they're falling back on Plan B and Plan C, just like they are in Gaza. In Gaza, their Plan B involves a deliberate starvation of hundreds of thousands, perhaps half a million people in North Gaza. That's just raising this genocide to an even more unbelievable and disgusting level.

And in Lebanon, apparently they are trying to figure out some way to get around this complete roadblock that Hezbollah has erected in front of them. And their tanks are being blown up. They're losing in these encounters. They're being lured into traps. Their military war is going very, very badly. And so they're taking out their frustration by slaughtering civilians. And we saw that in Gaza with the ever greater number of innocent civilians who've been murdered. The official totals of 40,000-plus probably don't come near the real total, which is likely already well into six figures.

And in Lebanon, once again, they're making no progress on the military front. They've actually exposed that they're vulnerable to Iranian missile strikes. They've lost their Iron Dome. And the way they take out their frustrations for losing the military struggle is by slaughtering civilians. It's not surprising that they blew up all of those civilian affiliates of Hezbollah with the exploding pagers and radios and the worst act of terrorism in modern history. And it's not surprising that they're continuing with that effort to kill civilians, even as they continue to lose on the battlefield.

Okay, we're going to have to leave it there. Thanks to expert in West Asian affairs, Kevin Barrett, joining us from Saidia, Morocco.

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At least 67 people have been wounded in a drone attack in northern Israel, according to Israeli emergency services and local media, as the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah said it had targeted an Israeli military camp with a “swarm” of drones.

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Regarding Hezbollah's latest retaliation attack against the town south of Haifa, I'm joined by Kevin Barrett, expert in West Asia affairs. Kevin, good to have you with us. So, let's hear your assessment of this. In the past couple of days especially, these retaliation attacks have claimed the lives of Israelis and injured a large number of them.

Yes, Hezbollah has shown amazing resilience after the Zionist terrorists blew up the pagers and radios of civilian Hezbollah personnel without touching the military personnel, who didn't use those pagers, in one of the worst terrorist attacks in all of history. Then they murdered Hassan Nasrallah, the great charismatic and beloved leader who is extremely popular across the whole region and beyond, appalling much of the world.

The Zionist media in the West was trying to broadcast the idea that these were somehow successes. But the reality is that killing a bunch of civilians through an act of terrorism and then murdering a very reasonable man that they should have been negotiating with a long time ago is actually a good way to hasten their own demise.

And we're seeing that already. Lebanon has been bombed, but the Zionists, as always, are better at mass murdering civilians than they are at actually reducing the fighting ability of fighters. That is, they fight very well when they have no opposition. They put bullets through the heads and the hearts of children and babies and women quite effectively. But when someone fights back, then they lose. They turn tail and run. They're cowards.

And now Hezbollah has shown that it is perhaps the most courageous and proficient operations on earth, absorbing the blow that they did and regrouping so quickly that the Zionists have been unable to advance more than a few meters into Lebanon.

The Zionists have several brigades lined up that were supposed to be invading Lebanon, but they can't even go in there because they're getting their proverbial rear ends handed to them by the Lebanese resistance.

Hezbollah has announced that it is going to be getting on with the serious retaliation for the murder of the great martyr, Hassan Nasrallah. And they told the people of Haifa to evacuate if they live anywhere near any potential military target. And now they have pummeled a military target causing massive casualties among the

genocidal  Zionist settlers.

So we're all really in awe with great appreciation of the bravery and the genius of the people who have turned Hezbollah into really the world's greatest anti-terror group, the group that's standing up against genocide alongside the rest of the resistance in the region, led by Hamas, of course, alongside other groups.

And they are making life miserable for the genocidal Zionist entity, which at this very moment is trying to up the ante of its genocide. They're trying to basically starve northern Gaza. They're not allowing even water to get in there. And it's just horrific what they're doing.

And they're facing very, very stiff resistance right now from Lebanon. And God bless Hezbollah for it.

That's right. And Kevin, as you just rightly said, Israel has been unable to achieve many objectives. Hamas is still there. It's not eradicated like Israel wanted. Then they assassinate leaders of the resistance fighters. And resistance gets stronger, like you see, a stronger attack by Lebanon just less than an hour ago. But still, in the midst of all of this, there is this idea of what they are calling greater Israel. I mean, how could such a thing cross their mind when they are failing even in Gaza?

Well, Zionism is not a rational project. The apologists and propagandists for Zionism in the West have tried to present Zionism as some sort of legitimate national liberation movement. And they've tried to present the so-called state of Israel as a legitimate sort of moderate Western-style democratic secular state. That's what the propaganda says.

But that's just lies as everyone in the region knows. The real source of Zionism is extremist messianic millenarianism, a fanatical philosophy that looks to the coming of what these people, these Zionists, believe will be their Messiah, who is going to be a military conqueror who will subjugate the entire world. And on the way to that goal, they intend to expand the borders of the so-called State of Israel to everything from the Nile River to the Euphrates River. It's been said that the blue stripes on the Israeli flag refer to that project.

So there's a fanatical extremist, deviant, heretical religious project that's driven the creation and endless expansion and endless genocide of the so-called State of Israel. And that means that there's a kind of built-in instability in the mentality of the people there, and their leadership. And we see this most clearly with the kind of raving lunatics in the cabinet of Netanyahu, people like Smotrich and Ben-Gavir, who are fanatical believers in this notion that they can bring on the millennium—a thousand years of peace and joy and happiness for the Jewish people, each of whom will have a thousand plus non-Jewish slaves. They will have completely enslaved the world.

That's what they want. I’s their millenarian vision. And they believe that they will bring on a messiah who will somehow accomplish this for them if they can fight ruthlessly enough. And they don't have to think strategically, because it's a bizarre sacred, heretical religious vision.

So that's really the answer. There are a lot of irrational people in decision-making positions in the Zionist entity.

And Kevin, like our viewers can also see now in our new sticker, this latest attack by Hezbollah was directed at the squadron drones that are launched. It was a training center. It's like the canteen of a training center. It's a military center in that little town Banyamina near Haifa. But look at the other side. Look at how the Israeli military, the most moral army, as they put it, are acting in Gaza and also in Lebanon.

Well, we've seen reports in the mainstream Western media just in the past week that have shocked and appalled a lot of Americans and Europeans who previouly had not realized the full extent of the depravity of the Zionist military. We've gotten these reports from Doctors Without Borders and other medical groups, Western medical groups, documenting the fact that they're finding huge numbers of children and babies deliberately murdered by Israeli snipers and other gunmen with bullets put right between their eyes and directly into their hearts. These snipers are shooting little children and babies, and of course women and other noncombatants, to kill them with these targeted shots between the eyes and to the heart. Over and over and over, these Western medical personnel have documented huge numbers of these children being deliberately sniper murdered.

And now those of us who've been paying attention know that this has been a regular practice of the Israeli Defense Forces going back for decades. Indeed, Chris Hedges, formerly of the New York Times, wrote an article called

A Gaza Diary back in 2001 in which he described witnessing the horror of these Zionist soldiers barking out obscene insults over their megaphones in order to lure Palestinian children within range of their gun sites so they could murder them for sport.

Chris Hedges wrote that he had witnessed horrific atrocities in war zones all over the planet, but he had never seen soldiers luring children like mice into a trap and murdering them for sport until he got to occupied Palestine and saw the Israelis doing it.

This is the army that they call the most moral army in the world. This is the army that prints up t-shirts with pregnant women with a target on their bellies with a legend, “one shot, two kills.”

They are proud of murdering babies. They're proud of murdering pregnant women and killing the babies being carried by the pregnant women. And they brag about it. Their political leadership actually wants this.

Whereas the resistance has focused relentlessly on targeting the Israeli military. That means the resistance is the anti-terrorist force. And the Zionists who deliberately attack civilians to spread fear and terror are, by definition, the real terrorists.

Kevin, we have two Israeli ministers calling the U.N. chief as persona non grata. And that because Guterres has failed to condemn Iran's retaliation against Israel. I mean, look at the audacity. I mean, Israel assassinates Hamas’s leader, Hezbollah’s leader, Iran's top general, in broad daylight, breaching sovereignty, territorial integrity of the country, international law and everything. And now they are calling Guterres persona non grata.

Yeah, it's the word audacity doesn't even begin to describe it. There's a Yiddish word chutzpah, which is described as the quality of someone who's killed their parents and is on trial and pleads with the judge for mercy on the basis of being an orphan. That's chutzpah. And the Zionist leadership has chutzpah in spades. They think that they're Yahweh's gift to humanity and that everything they do, no matter how depraved and evil, has to be met with absolute adulation by the whole world.

And so if the UN chief notices that Iran has been very reasonable and very restrained so far in its retaliation for these ongoing genocidal atrocities and other war crimes committed by the Zionists on an accelerating basis, then, of course, he's the bad guy. He's the persona non grata. It's not Netanyahu, the lunatic war criminal with his even crazier cabinet.

It's Guterres who’s persona non grata! It's the head of the United Nations! It's everybody else who's wrong. You know, somebody who thinks that they're always right and everybody else they run into in the world is always wrong—that person is a narcissist and a psychopath. And that's exactly what the Israelis are.

OK, appreciate the insight. Kevin Barrett, West Asian affairs expert inside here from Morocco. And with that, we also come to the end of this newscast from Tehran. Thank you for watching.

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In the wake of John Hankey’s new film Trump in the Crosshairs: Murder in Butler, Pennsylvania, Pro-Trump Republican activist “Wisco Rolf” Lindgren disputes what he views as scurrilous allegations against his idol, compares Trump to Galileo, and predicts that in his second term Trump will drain the swamp and annihilate the Deep State, as described in Rolf’s new song “In the Year 2025, President Trump Will Re-Arrive.”

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History-teacher-turned-filmmaker John Hankey discusses his new film "Trump in the Crosshairs: Murder in Butler, Pennsylvania." Here is Hankey’s film:

The film exposes the July 13 “assassination attempt” as a murderous publicity stunt orchestrated by the Zionist deep state to enhance Trump’s chances of taking office and rubber-stamping escalated genocide. See my articles: “ ‘Sifting and Winnowing’: Evidence in the False Flag Trump Shooting” and “American Cognitive Decline: It’s Bipartisan”; and my interviews on the subject with Alan Sabrosky and Barbara Honegger.

I have argued that the fact that the Secret Service allowed Trump to stand up and shake his fist, potentially exposing himself to more bullets (and that the cowardly Trump did such a thing) is decisive proof that the event was staged. Hankey’s film fleshes out that analysis and finds abundant supporting evidence, including video proof that Trump’s involuntarily flinch at the sound of the first gunshot contrasts tellingly with the obviously voluntary, pre-scripted ear-clutch half a second later. Hankey shows video proof that the MK-ultraed patsy Thomas Matthew Crooks could not have fired any shots at Trump, and argues that the real shooters, who killed Crooks and Corey Comperatore and wounded David Dutch, were security personnel stationed in the building behind the one that Crooks climbed on.

So who did it and why? The short answer: Elements of Israeli intelligence and its organized crime assets—the same folks who killed the Kennedys and did 9/11—want Trump back in the White House so he can drag the US into Israel’s war on Iran, and greenlight “finishing the job” of the genocide of Palestine.

On the second hour of the podcast, pro-Trump Republican activist “Wisco Rolf” Lindgren disputes what he views as scurrilous allegations against his idol, compares Trump to Galileo, and predicts that in his second term Trump will drain the swamp and annihilate the Deep State, as described in Rolf’s new song “In the Year 2025, President Trump Will Re-Arrive.”

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Alan Sabrosky discusses revisionists’ assertions that yes, there was a Holocaust during World War II, and yes, the Germans were involved…but as victims, not perpetrators. Alan Sabrosky writes:

“I came across a couple of videos which I uploaded to my channel on Bitchute *AlanNedSabrosky. They are about WWII in Europe and its aftermath. Their titles are “Hellstorm” and “Other Losses.” Both are based on books (I have read them) and I knew many of the details, but the videotaped (from old newsreels and the like) and photos are – well, unsettling and appalling, even to me as a Marine veteran. I would like to discuss them at the end of the first hour and as a prelude to the second hour, because they not only reveal just how complete the lying has been for so long, but provide evidence of the true Talmudic nature of our common foe. Here are the links to the videos, best watched in this order:

(1) Hellstorm:   https://www.bitchute.com/video/oI9kdwezy03r

(2) Other Losses:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/pOQq6Vr65Vvs “

Also check out the transcript and audio of my 2015 interview with Thomas Goodrich, author of Hellstorm.

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I’m reposting my March 6, 2015 interview with Thomas Goodrich, along with a rough transcript, to accompany the new Alan Sabrosky interview, which will be posted shortly. -KB

Thomas Goodrich, author of Hellstorm: The Death of Nazi Germany, 1944—1947, argues that the REAL “holocaust” of World War II was not the Nazi killing of 6 million (or was it .6 million) Jews, but the deliberate and militarily useless Allied mass murder of millions German and Japanese civilians by firebombing; the murder of more than a million German POWs who were either slaughtered by the “take no prisoners” Allies or deliberately starved to death; the Morgenthau plan to kill tens of millions of Germans (which was partially implemented, then withdrawn); and the mass rape (often followed by the murder) of millions of German women by Russian and, yes, American soldiers. (That’s why your great-uncle or grandpa would never talk about the war.)

Maybe it’s time to convert Holocaust museums to “Anti-German Holocaust” museums?

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We're going to talk this hour about a very controversial topic, which is World War II revisionism. People talk about Holocaust revisionism. But personally, I think Holocaust revisionism is kind of limiting in that World War II was a lot bigger than any one Holocaust. The official narrative of the Nazi killings of various groups may need to be reread and adjusted. But there's a whole lot about World War II that we're not hearing in the dominant narrative that we get in our schools and in our media. Obviously, the victors always write history. And in this case, I think they've mythologized history to try to make it look like World War II was "the good war."

But there are all sorts of aspects that don't really fit the narrative. And one of those aspects is the horrific treatment of Germans by the victors. There were not only things like the starvation by General Eisenhower of many hundreds of thousands of German prisoners of war, but the even worse atrocities committed on the Eastern Front.

My guest this hour, Tom Goodrich, has written a book called Hellstorm: The Death of Nazi Germany, which is quite hard to read. It's every bit as horrific a list of atrocities as you're ever going to get from somebody cataloging "Nazi atrocities." And Tom might make the case that, in fact, if you were going to have a balancing of the atrocities in World War II, it might actually be the Allies who would be the masters of atrocities.

It's a fascinating book, and it's certainly telling a side of the story that doesn't get told much. So let's hear about it from the author himself. Welcome, Tom Goodrich. How are you?

Hi, I'm very good. Thanks for having me, Kevin.

Well, it's good to have you, Tom. Your book, Hellstorm—I found it really hard to read. And the thing is, I can't just dismiss it and say, oh, well, Tom Goodrich is some kind of Nazi sympathizer, and he's probably distorting things. Because I've heard about this stuff before. I mean, it's not like the orthodox historians haven't heard of this. I heard about it when I had a slightly unorthodox political science professor at the University of Wisconsin who talked about these out-of-control atrocities on the Eastern Front towards the close of World War II. How did you find out about this and end up writing a book about it?

Well, first of all, I want to say thank you to that college professor of yours who had the guts to say such things in a classroom, a college classroom here in Marxist America, because I hope he still has his job, or I hope at least he had a chance to retire with his pension intact.

Well, he did. Back in those days, I think things were better.  You could get away with telling these unpleasant truths. Today, take it from me, you can get yourself in trouble by telling unpleasant truths in the university.

Yeah, well, you sound like the voice of experience. But anyway, Kevin, how I got caught up in this book…I knew some of the outline of it, of course. I knew something about Dresden (from reading) David Irving's wonderful detailed description of the firebombing of Dresden.

I was aware of certain aspects of this book well before I started researching it. But I think all my life I've been working toward this book. I've written a lot of books about the Civil War which are controversial, especially the treatment of the South after the Civil War.

There's a parallel there, isn't there?

There is a parallel.

The myth is that the Civil War, like World War II, was the good war. It was a war for liberation. With Civil War, it was a war to save African Americans. World War II was a war to save the Jews. It's almost the same narrative.

You're absolutely correct. There is a parallel. It's to a much smaller degree, thank God, than it is with World War II. But this Moonlight Magnolia nonsense about U.S. Grant and Robert E. Lee sealing the deal at Appomattox and the nation's one again is…well, it's fanciful, to put it mildly.

But, yes, there is a parallel. But I think I've been leading toward this book, Hellstorm, all of my life because you're either born with a curiosity gene—I call it a historical gene, actually, that seeks out the truth—or you're not.

Some of us aren't born with it, unfortunately, but I was. And so I've always went for controversy, because there's so much that has been either covered up in American history or world history, or not covered at all. And this was certainly one of those books, one of those events in world history, World War II. And so once I began digging and researching and doing interviews with people who were in their eighties who did survive. A story started started developing.

You mentioned how difficult it is to read. Imagine how difficult it was to research and read the words of the people and listen to the details of the interviews and then to sit down and write this book and then rewrite it and rewrite it again. Of course that's what you do with a book. It becomes so much a part of you that you feel like, well, I've said this before. It sounds melodramatic, but it's true. I feel like I died a thousand deaths. I have always been invested in the people I write about, whether it's the American Civil War, whether it's the Lincoln assassination.

And so when you become invested in a woman, a man, I'm thinking of this couple right now in Independence, Missouri, that I interviewed over their very humble breakfast table one morning. Very quiet, very polite people. But they looked like they had died and come back to Earth. And then they came back to Earth alive, but not quite. They just weren't quite alive. And they told me their story in a very matter-of-fact way.

She, of course, was raped numerous times. I mean, hundreds of times. She wasn't counting. Quite honestly, she was raped that much by the Red Army, as was virtually every other woman in the East, every other German woman. And she, at the end of the war, the so-called peace, war by other means, ended up crossing an estuary on the Baltic coast to dig potatoes with her bare hands in winter. And you might imagine what kind of winters there are in the Baltic states. To dig little potatoes that had been left behind. That was how she passed the post-war years.

Her husband, her later husband, had been captured by, I believe, the Americans or the British, and had been a slave for the next, I think it was ten years, a virtual de facto slave, somebody who works for 20 cents an hour and the owner gets a dollar or something.

And so when I started digging into this and finding out these abominable things, I realized that this is not out there. It has never been out there. And now it is out there, at least with my book.

Let me say this, Kevin, before I go any further. There have been some wonderful, wonderful books on subjects that I cover in my book, Hellstorm. For instance, David Irving’s Firebombing at Dresden. I don't know how many people knew in the English-speaking world knew of Dresden before David Irving.

There have been other accounts. I learned about it in high school when I read Kurt Vonnegut's book, Slaughterhouse-Five. He was a prisoner of war in Dresden. And he was held underground with a lot of stone between him and what happened to that city. And he talks about coming up out of the dungeon afterwards, and the whole city has just been—the men, women, children, the whole city is just gone. It's been burned.

Fortunately there were people like Vonnegut and David Irving who told us the story about Dresden. Otherwise, I don't know if we would have still heard about it to this very day. Despite the fact that there have been various authors writing about aspects of this, the world's darkest and best kept secret, they had never covered it in its totality. In other words, they had never tried to bring all the monstrous war crimes together in one volume, which I have done.

And people tell me the same thing you did. It's one of the most difficult reads, they say.

In fact, people have told me that they avoid certain passages in it. A person hearing us speak right now without even seeing the book may think I'm sensationalizing this. I'm not. I'm trying to be as graphic as I possibly can because I personally don't believe a person appreciates what happened unless it is graphic, unless it is detailed, unless they know exactly what a person looks like when they've went through a fire bombing,

how they shrivel up on the sidewalks, like about the size of a dog, or when they get caught in asphalt because it's so hot in that city the asphalt is actually melting, and then, burst into flames as they're trying to get out of there.

Or when you're trying to clean up after a firestorm like Dresden or Hamburg or Munich…I can name a dozen towns that suffered the same fate as Dresden, but they're just not known. And Dresden, of course, was the most egregious as far as the deaths.

And what you need to emphasize here, and of course you make this very clear, is that these firebombings of German cities were not militarily useful. They were just punishing the civilian population. The policy of intentionally going after the German civilians and slaughtering them en masse was supposedly decided upon because, well, that's going to make them want to surrender. And we now know that such things don't make people want to surrender. So it was militarily counterproductive, and yet... hundreds of thousands of people were just murdered. If the definition of terrorism is intentionally targeting civilians, the Allies during World War II were some of the worst terrorists in history.

Correct. The Allies themselves, the American Air Force Airmen and the British RAF, called it saturation bombing or carpet bombing—they had various names for it. But the people who suffered, the Germans down below, mostly women and children and old people—they called it by its more accurate name, terror bombing. And eventually some Americans and British themselves, who knew what they were doing, actually called it terror bombing.

Kind of like what the Israelis are still doing in Gaza. They call it mowing the lawn. Every couple of years they mow the lawn in Gaza. Isn't that nice and tidy? Isn't that sweet and clean? And yet the Holocaust museums we have, the vast majority of them are for the one side of this conflict. And we have much larger Holocaust right here in America with blacks and with Indians and on and on and on. And yet we've got this one holocaust narrative that dominates everything. And then when you start looking closely at what happened in world war II and you read books like Hellstorm you see that this is every bit as much of a holocaust as any. In fact it's more of one, because holocaust means burnt offering and that's what these were these fire bombings were: classic holocausts in every possible sense of the term, intentional mass murders inflicting horrible suffering on civilians.

I wonder, Tom, do you think that the Germans today who will arrest you if you go over there and question aspects of World War II history are still suffering from some kind of PTSD from this? Is that why they're so irrational about locking people up for doing revisionist history?

There has never been a war like World War II, and there's never been a defeat like World War II. Certainly, it was thorough. It was more Carthaginian than the Carthaginian so-called peace of Rome and Carthage. This was a total defeat. By total, I mean, yes, they basically had the memory of anything prior to World War Two extirpated from their brains. And now they have become basically dutiful slaves, dutiful robots. They do exactly what they're told. And that's the price of losing a modern war. You’re brainwashed to the point that you hate your own parents, that you despise and will protest against your parents, even when you find out your parents were victimized.

Well, I don't know what to call it. It's like this book. I couldn't find a word to describe it. Hellstorm was as close as I could come to it. Even the peace was a hellstorm. In fact, a lot of this book takes place after the war.

As far as the terror bombing…I’m going to hit a point that you mentioned there about the Jewish Holocaust, so-called. When you own the media, and they have for the last 100 years, you're the only game in town. You can be the only Holocaust in town, too. I'm here to tell you, and I'll tell you straight, that what the Germans suffered during and after the war was infinitely worse than anything suffered in the so-called Jewish Holocaust.

I'm telling you that straight. When they talk about thousands, I'm talking about millions. When I talk about millions of German women being raped, I mean millions of German women being raped millions of times over and over and over. I didn't know women could be raped that many times. And when I say women, I'm using that phrase loosely. Anything from 8 to 80 was the going rate of exchange with the Soviet soldiers coming through.

And by the way, it was also happening on the Western Front with the Americans. As one sergeant said, we were also “an army of rapists.” Everybody knew the Americans were doing this.

My professor said that it was on a much, much smaller scale on the Western Front.

I’m not sure. We had a very good propaganda mill running on our side. Bad things really didn't get out over there. We had some of the best Jewish writers in the world on our side. So you're not gonna hear much about that. Even Ernie Pyle didn’t...he had some innuendo. He went over to japan. He saw what was going on over there, which is almost a mirror what was happening in Europe. By the way, I’m working on a similar book…

But the air raids, you know, this book actually starts out with the air raids because you're right. You mentioned that there was no point in this other than sadism, because by 1944 there were no longer any real military targets that warranted a thousand plane raid.

And the book actually begins with the terror bombing, the fire bombing of Hamburg. Nobody that I knew had even heard of that. And actually, it was every bit as bad as Dresden. Only fewer people died. The official accounts say I think it's 40,000 to 70,000 so we could probably double or triple that. Because right now there's a – people are trying to diminish the death toll at Dresden. Even to this very day, they're saying, well, maybe 30,000 died at most. Even the International Red Cross, after the firebombing in Dresden, estimated that there were somewhere around 250,000 to 275,000 people who died there. That was their estimate. Later, functionaries, bureaucrats from Berlin, came down to assess it, talked to the police, talked to everybody they knew, tried to – you know how Germans are. They're very thorough, and they want to know things. And so they finally came up with anywhere between – it was anywhere between 250,000 and 400,000 people who died in Dresden.

And I'm not going to say differently because of the demographics in Dresden that night when the air raid began. Because it was a city already about the size of Pittsburgh, PA, 600,000 people. But on this night, their Mardi Gras, by the way, something called Fashing, there were roughly 600,000 more people there in Dresden that were refugees fleeing the Red Army to the east. So you've got a city just packed to the brim with refugees, women and children mostly, and old people. And then the other people in their costumes trying to relive one more Mardi Gras before the war ends.

So I think you put all this together. Winston Churchill, author, bomber, bomber Harris, the air chief of the RAF, the air butcher…the RAF sent their thousand planes in. First, it was a typical firestorm raid. As they’d tried it on Hamburg, so they tried it on Dresden. Send in planes, blast the city to smithereens. I mean, just blow it to splinters. Destroy buildings, centuries-old cathedrals, museums, art galleries. Dresden was known as the Florence on the Elba. It was known as one of the wonders of the world because it was so beautiful and ornate.

And we're told by Hollywood with films like Monuments Men, which was about the guys who were supposedly making sure the Allies didn't harm any important buildings or cultural artifacts, that this was the good war in the sense that they were so careful and so delicate about making sure they didn't hurt anything that they didn't need to hurt.

Yeah, well, Dresden didn't do okay with that, I'm going to tell you.

Monuments Men must have forgotten about Dresden.

Yeah, it's fanciful stuff. Of course, it's just eyewash. But anyway, Dresden was blown to bits. A thousand planes came in and just destroyed a magnificent medieval city. And then when the people are coming out of their holes trying to understand what has happened.

I should say Dresden had only suffered a few small raids prior to this. It was as if the city was being set up. And as you mentioned, Kurt Vonnegut was there along with other allied POWs. It was known as the hospital city because lots of people were there in their hospitals. And so when they came in and blew it to bits, they knew exactly what they were doing: “to hell with the POWs.”

And that's probably why Kurt Vonnegut came back from the war horrified that the Allies would care so little about those POWs.

But anyway, the town is blown to bits. People are coming out of their holes, out of their – Because there were no air raid shelters even in Dresden. They just thought that they were impervious to this because of its reputation as a world treasure with no military significance. They didn't even have any air protection. There was no risk at all to the flyers. But as soon as the people came out and saw their city destroyed, I'm sure that many would just wish they'd been killed because just imagine, I mean, a beautiful city.

But the bad part is that that was just the beginning. About three hours later, in came another wave of planes, I believe it was the Americans this time, came armed not with explosives but with fire sticks. That's phosphorus bombs, fire bombs, to drop down on all these splinters, these old wooden splinters that had been blown to bits, and start this conflagration. As they learned from Hamburg and many other cities in Germany, throw the matches down on this kindling, and it will ignite almost like powder. And it went up in a puff. Snd suddenly you've got this center of the city that has turned into a fiery tornado, a vortex of flame, drawing, sucking everything in with hurricane-strength wind, pulling streetcars along, pulling roofs off buildings, dragging people, screaming into the firestorm center itself, 1500 degrees.

Those who weren't swept in were generally the people who got stuck in the asphalt because it melted also. People who did escape this disaster of fire and wind were killed because of the copper roofs heating up and melting and dripping down on them. It was truly…it truly was a hell storm.

But it it even gets worse. You would think this cannot get any worse. But the people had gone back into their holes to escape the second wave of planes. Of course that's the worst thing they could have done when a raid starts with fire bombs because their havens turn into ovens and they get baked alive in there and if that didn't happen then

their steam pipes break and scald them to death.

The next day when the survivors finally collected themselves and got out of there they all tried to reach safety in either the huge Central Park or along the Elba River. Here we've got some green space, some blue sky, and maybe you can find your little children that got lost in the tumult, or your husband, whoever.

Well, guess what? The Americans send in their P-fighter pilots and start gunning down people in these open places. Beautiful, sunny day. Most of the smoke had already dissipated. The Americans can see exactly what they're doing. They're shooting women and children that are running with their packs through the parks. They're coming in very low, sometimes less than

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feet, and gunning them down with machine-gunning cannons. Even zoo animals who had escaped the night before this horrible fire event were run down by pilots and shot. Strafing killed one zookeeper cried when he saw his last giraffe shot down.

That is pretty grim. The book begins with the terror bombing firestorms. Like you said, there was no military value. It's very much the same as what was going on in Japan toward the end of the war, even when the Japanese were trying to surrender. I believe it was well after the first Japanese hint to surrender that they firebombed Tokyo for crying out loud,

dead women and children later,

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And so it was a program, a plan, obviously, of the American Air Force, the Air Force in Europe and the – I forget the nomenclature for the American Air Force in Japan. And so we've got basically people just taking the gloves off, throwing away the rules, the hell with Geneva Convention land rules.

I'm outraged that this happened in my name as an American. I'm totally outraged. Nonetheless, it behooves me as a historian to tell the story as honestly and as accurately as I possibly can. Otherwise, I'm doing a disservice to everyone. I'm doing nothing but passing on propaganda, as the Allies have done for the last years, by the way. And this is significant, not only to establish historical truth. but also to influence our present behavior.

You know, Tom, I strongly encourage World War II revisionism of all kinds, all forms of truth-seeking and myth-deflating, because I think that World War II is still driving us to commit atrocities. William Blum, in his book, Killing Hope, argues that many, many millions of people have been murdered in U.S. military and CIA intervention since World War II. Some folks like Andrei Vltchek put the number at close to 60 million people killed and hundreds of millions of lives ruined.

And why are we doing this? Well, World War II changed America's character. We had a few imperial adventures before, but post-World War II, we were convinced that we had to be the world's policeman. The total war of World War II seemed to somehow change the nature of the country, and a new myth developed—the myth that if we tried to just mind our own business like we did before Pearl Harbor, something terrible like Pearl Harbor could happen to us.

So it changed us. And even to this day, post-“new Pearl Harbor” (which is what 9/11 was) the myth of the good war is still driving bad behavior. You make a very good point there.

The impetus to write this book is so that this never happens again. Once I found out what we did in the name of democracy, freedom, liberation, all the wonderful buzzwords—when I found out what we had done and how they had covered this up, I looked around and I agreed. I said, well, hey, the Muslims are just the new Germans. This is what we're doing right now to them. It's what we did to the Germans. We do it. Why? And nobody's going to stop us. You you might call it one thing. I call it bullying. I call it being a big bully. And let's call him what he really is, a sadistic bully. And yes, I was in the military at one time. If we've got any buddy out there who thinks I wasn't, I was. I'm ashamed. I'm absolutely, totally ashamed of what this country did in World War Two. And it's the way they did it. It's the way they acted afterwards. I've got some real choice words. I won't say them right now, but it's this bogus B.S., about the greatest generation, fighting the so-called good war, when basically it was an army of thieves, rapists… and we've got this ideal of a good-natured G.I. on the hood of a Sherman tank rolling through some French or German village, throwing Hershey bars at the little kids at the side.

That's what Wolfowitz said would happen in Iraq.

Well, I mean, that's the program. It still works, so why not go with it? Why invent something when the old one still works?

I'm not saying that there weren't some good people. I'm not going to say that at all. I had two fathers that fought in that war, one a biological, one an adoptive father, one in the ETO, European Theater of Operations, the other an island-hopping Marine.

That said, still, you know, we always hear this about, oh, Grandpa doesn't want to talk about the war. He saw so many bad things. And you hear stories like that. Finally, it's occurred to me, no, I know why Grandpa don't want to talk about the war. It's the things he did in that war. He finally grew a soul when he got back here, a soul and a conscience, and realized that raping and murdering, gunning down the Volkssturm, that is, the militia, old men and boys, when they hold their hands up and walk forward, gunning them down or “sending them to the rear,” which was a euphemism to just kill them. They weren't taking any prisoners.

Steven Spielberg, the Jewish producer, got one thing right in Private Ryan when he showed the Americans gunning down the defenders there at Normandy. What he didn't say and what he didn't show is that they were gunning the Germans down all the way to Germany and into Germany and beyond. And even after the war, they weren't taking any prisoners. When they started really taking prisoners was when the war finally ended, when Germany absolutely capitulated, unconditional surrender. And suddenly you're left with millions of disarmed German prisoners. So you can't really slaughter a million without somebody finding out about it.

There is the thing right now about Eisenhower's death camps.  I grew up in Kansas, and that's where Eisenhower comes from. I grew up loving Eisenhower. My parents were Republicans through and through, and I grew up that way myself, loving Ike. I mean, he was one of us. He was there. He was always smiling in the pictures.

Just imagine, Kevin, my disappointment. That's not the word. But just imagine my stunned chagrin when I realized that Eisenhower was responsible for the murder of millions of helpless, disarmed German OWS who had fought as well as they possibly could for their country. But that's the way he treated them. How did he do that? How did he get by with that, with the International Red Cross, with the Geneva Convention still in effect? Simple legerdemain. He chose a new designation. Instead of POWs, it became DEFs, disarmed enemy forces. That little sleight of hand, at least in Eisenhower's mind, allowed him to do one of the ugliest and most vicious depraved crimes in world history, in my opinion.

They have a secret silent massacre of millions of Germans. Eisenhower was a noted German-phobe. He hated Germans. He wrote, “God, I hate the Germans.” I think he wanted to take it out on them. But he advocated, even before the war was over, killing  German officers and Nazi party members. They didn't just mow them down, although some of these German prisoners were shot and killed. But most of them were starved to death, even though there was a bounty of food just across the border in neutral Switzerland which the International Red Cross would have been more than happy to bring over, and tried to bring over.

Those Germans were dying of starvation. But many men also died from dehydration for lack of water. They would be forced to drink out of puddles you can imagine hundreds of thousands of men in these open fields of puddles filled with feces and urine, drinking that, or drinking their own urine. And all this, keep in mind, when the River Rhine or other streams are right beyond the perimeter of the fence, where they can see it. That's sadism. That's sadistic.

Others, as I said, died from disease, died from neglect. It's a horrible slaughter to read about. And Eisenhower never lost any sleep over it. Now, why did he hate Germans so much? I don't know. The Germans themselves said he was Jewish.

Ike was Jewish?

I've heard that. I've heard that he was a Swedish Jew, but I'm not sure. But why he hated them so badly…I mean, and you've got Eisenhower hating them terribly. But Patton actually admired them. Now, there's another story. And, of course, t's a big deal right now about Patton, “who killed George Patton,” because he was causing some waves. He didn't like what was going on. He said “this revenge stuff is Semitic.”

And you talk about the modern equivalent. What's going on right now? Let's just use Abu Ghraib for an example. That ugly, vicious, depraved, stupid, hillbilly nonsense, torturing these poor devils.

That whole sexual torture thing at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere seems like it was driven by Israeli expertise. The Israelis have a long history of expertise in sexual torture of Palestinians, and so they sent their experts over there.

Yeah, I've heard that Hebrew, that's the language of choice in all these torture pens around the globe where the Americans house these people. And, of course, they probably got their head start in World War II because at the end of the war – Oh, my God. I mean, sometimes just going over this again and again.

At the end of the war, U.S. Army Intelligence came in. And it was peopled mostly by the Jews who left Germany during the persecution when Hitler came to power. And then they came back with the Americans, of course, with hell on their neck. They spoke good German. They understood the culture. And they hated the Germans with a passion. And so these people made expert inquisitors—torturers, that is.

Now, the torture was torture for torture's sake. They were not getting any information. I mean, how much information can you get out of a really small-time Nazi flunkies or a small lieutenant in the Wehrmach. You're getting nothing. But you're getting the extreme pleasure of seeing that sucker wince and be tortured and scream like an animal with his foot caught in a trap, smashing a man's technicals.

You know, there is the Nuremberg trials. Those weren’t the only trials going on, the only venue at least. There were trials all over Germany. And there was one, some German defendants, that were accused of something, this or that, I don't know what. They had their testicles smashed when they showed up in court.

Everybody went through torture. Leni Riefenstahl, one of the greatest filmmakers and probably the greatest female filmmaker of all time, just a terribly talented young woman, not a Nazi—though Hitler admired her, and that, of course, drew Allied attention—but she was arrested something like nine times. Tortured, raped, turned every which way but loose.

Nobody escapes this. It's like the rapes in the eastern parts. Now, Americans and British rape, it's true. However, it wasn't sanctioned. In other words, you could rape because you know that it's generally the rear echelon that commits the majority of the crimes. It's been that way in every army I've ever researched. It seems to always be the supply side that comes through that has nothing, that’s not at any risk at all and can do all the missions they want.

The combat troops, they're too busy trying to stay alive to do a lot of terrible things. But on the East Front, and this is an aspect of the book that seems to permeate it. And by the way, the book's...You might kill me, the messenger. I'm just a person, just a writer, just telling a hidden story. It's pretty difficult to kill the message when it's in the words of the people themselves, and that's what this is. It's a you-are-there first-person approach. It's people describing what it's like to go through a firestorm. describing it to the nth degree. Or women describing what it's like to be raped 100 times a night, hundreds of times per week. It sounds preposterous. It's true, though.

It seems like we almost need some kind of public tribunals to deal with this situation because this is so suppressed. And, you know, in other situations with these kinds of abuses, there have been public airings. But, of course, who in power has a motive to do something like that?

Well, yeah, you're right. A start would be just to apologize to Germany for the excesses, the crimes committed against Germany. And irregardless of any crimes attributed to Germany, true or false, even if they did it to the last degree, it still warrants an apology from the rest of us for what we did to Germany. Because there's just no way I can describe everything in here.

But let me say this, on the Eastern Front, rape was sanctified. It was, as Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the famous Russian writer and dissident, said, rape was almost a combat distinction. And once you raped a woman, you could kill her.

Ilya Aremberg was a mouthpiece of Stalin. He was a Jewish writer, probably the most popular writer in Russia at the time. And, of course, he hated Germans with all his being. And so when the Russians were on the verge of breaking into Germany, entering greater Germany, Ehrenberg was in the habit of showering down from airplanes pamphlets and leaflets and flyers to the soldiers below to remind them what they were supposed to be doing once they got to Germany.

Here's an example of one of those flyers. This is a quote: “Kill them all, the men, old men, children and the women, after you have amused yourself with them. Kill. Nothing in Germany is guiltless, neither the living nor the yet unborn. Break the racial pride of the German women. Take her as your legitimate booty. Kill, you brave soldiers of the victorious Soviet army. Kill.”

What does that say to your average 20-year-old Soviet soldier who's fought all the way from Moscow and St. Petersburg? That's telling him, “There are no laws. You do what you want. Have a good time.”

In fact, it's more than that. It's almost a demand that you do as much damage, as much harm, and create as much agony as you possibly can. That's what it's almost saying. Anybody who could resist that…let's put it this way. I was in the military once.  I know what it's like to be in the military. Even if you've got a soul, it's not fully developed. Young guys can do the most damnable things in war. I can tell you that. And then, of course, they live to regret it because suddenly they develop a full conscience in their 20s and 30s. And that's why grandpa doesn't talk about (his war experiences), because the conscience intrudes upon his happy time.

How about the studies that show infantry soldiers’ reluctance to kill? The situation you're describing kind of conflicts with the research of S.L.A. Marshall, who found that only five or 10 percent of the infantry actually tried to kill anybody. The rest would fire over their heads or intentionally avoid killing people. And supposedly this research has been supported with battlefield archaeology from other wars as well.

Yes, and the same with the Civil War, too. All the mini balls are flying way over everybody's head generally. But there's always that one or two in a company that is aiming right for the eyeballs.

Yeah, those are the psychopaths, the ones who actually enjoy killing people.

Yeah, you know, the Soviet soldier—this is something, every part of this book was a revelation to me. I knew so very little about this war. But here's something that amazed me. Most of the Soviet shock troops, even that late in the war, were white soldiers. Russians or Belarus, Belarusians or Ukrainians. These were the hard bitten tough guys you always see with the Tommy guns running through with the padded uniforms. These guys did some terrible things. I'm going to tell you what. But for by and large, for the most part, they were white guys. And as I said, shock troops everywhere, whether they're American, British, Russian, French, whatever, are much more concerned about survival. As they're going through a town, they don't know if they're going to have a black hole put right between their eyes the next second. So they're very cautious, kicking in doors, making sure nobody's there to put a bullet in the back of your head when you're moving on.

Things like souvenirs, things like beating somebody up or killing somebody innocent or raping, for God's sakes, that doesn't weigh as heavy on their mind as surviving. So these guys, as bad as it is, and time and time again the people themselves say the same thing, that “we were pleasantly surprised because the shock troops came and we thought they might even kill us. But no, they were helpful, as a matter of fact, time and again.

The problem came with the rear echelon of troops, the second group coming in. And these up and down the line were generally Mongolians or other Asiatics. Even Russian officers and the typical soldier would tell the people who were terrified, saying, we're tough guys. We fight hard. But these next ones coming up, they're animals. You go quick. Go quick. Because they knew what was coming.

Well, see, a lot of those guys, a lot of those Asians in the Russian army didn't want to be in there. They were terrified, dragooned into this army that they didn't relate to. They were colonized peoples themselves who didn't particularly like the Russian occupiers. So when they got dragged into the Russian army, they were not normal sort of patriotic soldiers who were fighting for an army that they believed in. They were kind of slave soldiers who'd been dragooned into something that they didn't relate to at all. And I think possibly that may have influenced the terrible behavior.

Maybe, but time and time again, these guys were absolutely merciless. The women talk about the slant eyes. They talk about the Mongolians, how cruel they were. A lot of folks, when we talk about rape, a lot of folks think that uh... rape is uh... you know it's we we don't have a proper appreciation for what rape is rape is not just vaginal and rape doesn't have to just be vaginal or anal or oral rape is…It's biting. It's bruising. It's cutting. It's urination. It's spitting. It's so gross and disgusting. But these are the things that some women mentioned when they're talking about rape.

Living after Ilya Aronberg's demand, his decrees that they kill the people, the women, through amusing themselves with it…Not every woman... Well, lots of women actually were raped to death. And as foolish as it may sound, there's too many times it happened for it to be anomaly, the men would continue to rape, even rape the corpses, even in broad daylight, even in the street. They would continue and stand in line laughing to rape a corpse. I'm not making this up. They would even go in. Now, put it put it this way. When a guy is drunk on perfume or straight alcohol or brandy or wine, whatever, I mean, drunk. So drunk that they can hardly walk. I suppose they'll do all sorts of things, including raiding nursing homes and raping the 80-year-old women in there.

Time and time again, it happens. It's not an anomaly. It's not an aberration. It happens over and over, this ghoulishness. But let's just assume that the women survive, although many died. How does a woman – it's a spiritual massacre of German women. That's what Ilja Ehrenberg wanted the most, I think. I think killing them first if you wanted to, and then just rape her and abuse her so badly that she's been massacred spiritually. What do I mean by that? What if you're a schoolteacher in a village, and one day I heard a company of stinking Mongolians come in there and force you to give each and every one of them oral sex in front of your class. The class can't leave. They've got to stay there and watch it. That's another ghoulish aspect of this. They wanted these Jewish commissars that were traveling with them, wanted everybody to see this.

And in churches, too. Same place, raping nuns. How does that woman who's being raped or sodomized in front of her class or in the park on her hands and knees, how does she get back to being a woman if she survives this? How does she go back to teaching school? Next day or next month or next year? Or how does a woman go back to being a mother and a husband and a wife after her husband and children have watched her be raped times on the kitchen table one night? I mean, that's what I mean by the spiritual massacre.

And so in that sense, people who survived, they may look like they're alive, but they have been actually murdered in their soul and spirit. And that's like the woman I was talking about over the breakfast table who had this almost dead attitude about everything, it seemed. But unfortunately, that's what the book is about. It's about this graphic nature, and I'm leaving lots of stuff out because I don't want to go over it again. It's so terrible.

And you point out how some of this came out of the very extreme vitriolic hate propaganda against Germany that didn't begin with the war.

You know, the usual narrative is that the Germans started the war. But, of course, there was hate propaganda against Germany, just as in Germany there was hate propaganda against Jews. There was Jewish hate propaganda against Germany long before the war started. I suppose it started with World War I, although I am not in World War I probably there. I'm not sure. Another subtitle, Kevin, for this book, instead of The Death of Nazi Germany, could have been The Powerful Price of Propaganda. Because propaganda got millions killed, it got millions raped, it got millions tortured, and it got tens of millions of people enslaved. That's the powerful price of propaganda. Because you've got American soldiers coming through, killing everybody in sight. People try to surrender. I mean, SS, you're dead immediately. There's no screwing around there. People kind of doubt the extremity of this. They should... Check out the Morgenthau Plan.

That was another thing that Professor John Armstrong brought up. He opened my eyes in a lot of ways. At the time, this was late 70s, I was just kind of a typical sort of post-hippie-ish, left-leaning 20-year-old, and he's a conservative Catholic political science professor from South Carolina teaching at the University of Wisconsin. And this stuff was very eye-opening for me. He was going into these aspects that you never hear about, including the Morgenthau Plan, which was a plan to basically massacre a sizable portion of the German nation after the war. Tell us a little bit about that plan.

Actually, it was Henry Dexter White, his suborn, that came up with the idea. Morgenthau was the Jewish Treasury Secretary under F.D.R. And Morgenthau, of course, he had a...

just an off-the-charts hatred of Germany. And the Morgenthau Plan was basically a chance to end Germany for all time. That's what I'm calling the death of Nazi Germany, basically. A plan to pastoralize Germany, Germany being one of the industrial giants of the world, probably the industrial giant. So basically just destroy all the cities and just let everybody starve as they try to claw potatoes from the ground.

But more than that, it's like the Russians dismantling every factory in their sphere of influence in the Russian zone and taking it back to the last nut and bolt, back to Russia to reassemble. Or the Americans blowing up mines, destroying factories in their area that weren't important to their own occupation, or stealing everything. Basically, things like Operation Paperclip, not just stealing equipment, tangible material things, but stealing humans, stealing the genius of the German people.

We usually hear about this as though the evil Nazi scientists corrupted the good CIA people who kidnapped them and brought them to America. Well, when you win a war, you can do anything you want. Basically, yes, you write the history, and you can vilify the victim, the people who lost, forever. Until somebody stands up and says, no more. No more. We're tired of the lies.

So that's the terrible price of losing a modern war, is that the enemy controls everything, including the history books. It’s a terrible thing for people like me who actually grew up loving Eisenhower to find out that Eisenhower was one of the greatest mass murderers in history.

For me it's been interesting to rediscover Ezra Pound. When I was studying literature they always said that Ezra Pound was this crazy fascist. Where did he get these bizarre economic ideas? After decades, I’ve finally done some research and discovered that Ezra Pound wasn't so crazy. They basically sentenced him to the insane asylum because he was uncommonly sane in a lot of ways. He saw through a lot of this nonsense, saw through some of the economic roots of it, the domination of international finance by the group of people responsible for these wars. That's another great story. It sounds very Orwellian, too, to be put away in a nuthouse for being sane, as well as the greatest poet of your time.

Yes, and so I should say this, that the book is about the crimes committed against Germany. But I also have that one year of the war in here. And I found out so many things about the war, especially on the Eastern Front and the Western Front. But I don't think ever any people have ever fought so heroically and, of course, lost. The German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS on the East Front. It was one of the most incredible heroic efforts ever. And that was all about a fight of European nationalism versus Jewish Bolshevism from Russia. And they lost, of course, the war.  Americans threw their hat in the ring. FDR got us in through the back door with the attack at Pearl Harbor.

Today, the post-Bolshevik Russians still are pretty much in denial of their own World War II crimes, still totally focused on the German crimes.

Yeah. I was in Russia, in St. Petersburg, about three months ago. And I really sense it. It seems like the freedom there is what America used to have. We don't have that anymore. But there seems to be an unbridled love affair right now with freedom and freedom to say what they feel like. I didn't see anybody looking around. I've been behind the Iron Curtain many times before it came down. People whisper and people just ignore certain subjects. In Russia, there seems to be renewed vigor, renewed hope. Probably thanks to Putin.

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“Israel” is quite proficient at killing people. In less than a year they have killed 40,000 civilians in Gaza, and last week killed 2,000 more in Lebanon. Unofficial estimates of the real death toll in Gaza, as opposed to the officially recovered, counted, and identified bodies, exceed 200,000.

As they slaughter vast numbers of women and children under the flimsiest excuses, the Zionists also kill the political and diplomatic leaders with whom wiser leaders would be negotiating. They apparently have not considered that for each civilian they kill, dozens of furious survivors and onlookers become long-term anti-Zionist combatants-in-waiting. And they don’t seem to realize that martyring political and diplomatic leaders gives fighters added incentive to up their game, and leaves them no option but to do so. That’s why, in the wake of the assassination of Hassan Nasrallah, Israel’s attempted invasion of Lebanon has been shockingly (to the Zionists) unsuccessful.

Randomly murdering tens of thousands of civilians, or assassinating a handful of leaders, superficially looks like tactical success. Richie Allen seemed to think that Israel’s terrorist attack on non-combatants associated with Hezbollah via exploding pagers was an impressive achievement.* As I told him, just about anybody who really wants to randomly murder that number of people, or more, can do so if they so choose. The fact that Israeli leaders employed such an elaborate Rube Goldberg scheme to mass murder noncombatants—to counterproductive strategic effect—reveals the Israelis as psychopathic idiots and shameless war criminals, not geniuses.

The appearance of tactical success achieved by Israel’s pointless murders conceals a colossal strategic failure. The root of that failure is simple: Netanyahu has no idea what he is trying to achieve, other than keep the war going so he can stay in office and out of prison. His extremist coalition parters, Smotrich and Ben Gvir, do have a vision—“exterminate Amalek”—but since this is 2024, not the Bronze Age, that isn’t going to happen. Israel can kill a small fraction of today’s “Amalek” but for every Amalek they kill, ten or a hundred more will spring up. Long before Israel killed even 5% of its current Amalek enemies it would have transformed most of the world’s 8 billion non-Jews into a new, even more angry and determined Amalek.

Netanyahu’s official war aims in Gaza are (1) eliminate Hamas, and (2) use military force to bring back the Israeli hostages alive. Both are obviously impossible, as Israel’s military and intelligence leaders have reiterated. Hamas is just a current name for Islamic resistance to Zionist genocide, and that resistance is an idea that can’t be eliminated by military means. And military attempts to snatch back hostages will almost always lead to the deaths of those hostages.

Since he has set impossible war aims, and has no realistic ones, Netanyahu is bogged down in a war on Gaza that he, and Israel, will inevitably lose. And now he is making an even worse mistake by invading Lebanon and stepping into an even bigger quagmire. Once again, Netanyahu has declared goals that cannot be realized: (1) Defeat Hezbollah, which like Hamas is simply the local form of Islamic resistance to genocide, an idea that cannot be defeated militarily, and (2) Change the military equation so that Zionist settlers can return to the occupied northern territories. But unlike in 2006, when Hezbollah defeated Israel with only a tiny fraction of the arsenal and army it now possesses, the Lebanese anti-terror group now has long-range rockets that can hit those northern territories from anywhere in Lebanon (and from parts of Syria and Iraq for that matter). Obviously there is no evident military path to enabling the northern settlers to return.

Endgame: Masada 2.0

Since the officially-declared vision of what Israeli “victory” would look like is impossible, while a conventional military defeat of “Israel” also seems unlikely due to the Zionists’ advantage in heavy weapons, how can this war possibly end? The most likely ending will involve some form of Masada 2.0. The original Masada, which of course is a myth not a historical reality, involved a civil war in which fanatical Jews were slaughtered by even more fanatical Jews, who then committed mass suicide rather than surrender to the Romans.

Masada 2.0 will similarly pit Jewish fanatics (the remnants of Labor Zionists) against even loonier ultra-fanatics (Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, and the rest of the messianic-millenarian maniacs). The moment of truth will come when Israelis collectively wake up and realize that Israel is bogged down in two hopeless quagmires, and that Netanyahu’s stated war aims are a pipe dream: The Israeli captives will never be brought back alive by military means, Hamas is still around and will remain so, Hezbollah can keep raining missiles on “Israel” indefinitely, and the settlers won’t return to the north without a peace agreement that would amount to an Israeli surrender (given the impossible declared war aims).

At this point the Zionists capable of rational strategic thinking will come into conflict with those who are not so capable—the Smotriches and Ben-Gvirs who imagine that if they only commit enough abominations their messiah will magically appear to save them. The strategic Zionists will see and accept the inevitability of a strategic retreat, while the messianic-millenarian lunatics will see that as a betrayal of all that is holy. The “sane Zionists” (I know that’s an oxymoron) will recognize that Israel’s only path to long-term existence as a “Jewish state” would be to somehow revive the two-state solution involving withdrawal from 1967-occupied territories. But the messianic-millenarian fanatics and the half-million settlers on those territories, like the ultras in the Masada legend, would rather die than compromise. When push comes to shove, and Netanyahu is finally scapegoated and sacrificed for his war failures, open fighting is likely to break out between the two factions. It may involve targeted assassinations, as happened to Yitzhak Rabin in 1995. Mob violence, possibly on a grand scale, is another possibility.

If the strategic Zionists win, and the war ends with at least the illusion of an Israeli return to “normalcy” featuring a promised and apparently viable path to a Palestinian state including all of the 1967-occupied land with East Jerusalem as its capital, more than a few of the millenarian lunatics may very well commit mass suicide, whether by their own hands or in a “suicide by cop” scenario when they are removed from the Occupied Territories by the IDF. And thus Masada 2.0 would take the “mass suicide rather than surrender” motif from myth into history.

If the messianic-millenarian lunatics win again, as they did with their assassination of Rabin in 1995, “Israel” will descend into chaos. Frenzied mobs will go berserk, awaiting their Messiah to lead them to ultimate victory over the gentiles. Almost all competent Israelis will have long since left, while the ten-children-per-family ultra-religious Zionists who don’t know how to do anything except bake unleavened bread and sit around all day chanting the Torah and poring over the Talmud will be all that remains. Economic collapse and political chaos will ensue. Military defense against the world’s two billion Muslims, who will never forgive or forget the Zionist genocide, will become impossible, especially as the US empire’s influence recedes. Ultimately the Holy Land will be absorbed back into the Islamic world.

The above assessment may sound partisan, given my sympathies for the Islamic resistance. But my prognosis is widely shared by well-informed people across the ideological spectrum. Indeed, I have merely spelled out the unspoken parts of what the well-informed segment of the world’s Zionist leadership knows all-too-well. Thomas Friedman, who calls Netanyahu “the worst leader not only in Israeli history, but in Jewish history” has been bemoaning the current Israeli leadership’s colossal strategic failures since last October. And Friedman is not an outlier. He represents the views of Zionist leaders, both in “Israel” and the West, who have thought things through.

So why are the majority of Zionists, including most of the Zionist-dominated media, reflexively supporting Netanyahu’s doomed non-strategy? Mainly because most of them are not as well-informed as Thomas Friedman. Zionists, whose partisanship has infused media and decision-making circles, inhabit a propaganda bubble that bears little relation to reality. High on their own supply, they almost involuntarily cheer for Israel whenever they see it under attack, drooling and growling on command like a pack of Pavlov’s dogs. Like their millenarian-messianic fanatic counterparts, secular Zionists are blinded by tribal loyalty. They are very good at not seeing things they don’t want to see.

When Israel implodes into Masada 2.0, the collective blindness of the larger Jewish tribe, not just its most extreme fanatics, will be the reason.

*Richie Allen: Hasn't Hezbollah been severely dented, and maybe that's putting it mildly, after this daring and brazen series of attacks against its leaders with the booby-trapped pagers and walkie-talkies?…I mean, that was an incredible coup that by the Israelis, love them or hate them. It's kind of to be admired really how they pulled that off.

Kevin Barrett: Well, that's certainly not the view from Lebanon or anywhere else in the region, including here in Morocco. Israel slaughtered a whole lot of civilians. Those pagers were not used by military people. Those pagers were only used by the civilian wing of Hezbollah. It's the equivalent of targeting the post office and the welfare department and the hospital bureaucracy in the UK. It’s like if they blew up the pagers of the National Health Service in the UK and the UK post office. It didn't even touch the military. It didn't scratch the military wing of Hezbollah. Now, that said, the bombings have. But first, let's be clear that this pager attack and radio attack was a mass murder of civilians and among the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the world…

You're listening to Kevin Barrett just briefly on the pager. So let's just say you're right then. that it had little or no impact on the military wing of Hezbollah. It's still an incredibly brave, not brave at all, it’s cowardly. It's an incredibly brazen thing to do, Kevin, and a bit of a coup for Mossad, right?…

Richie, that's ridiculous. “Brazen,” and you're admiring it! I mean, if I wanted to kill a few thousand Americans, I could do it very, very easily. I know how to poison water supplies if I want to. I mean, it's not very hard. It's easy to kill a lot of civilians.

That's all Israel did, right? I mean, their people have been poisoning people’s wells for thousands of years. And this is just more well poisoning and meaningless, non-strategic slaughter of civilians. It's moronic. One individual like me or anybody else could kill that many civilians if we were enough of a jerk to want to, like those Zionists are.

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Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Strategic Studies at the US Army War College, discusses the genocidal Zionists’ latest atrocities and the Axis of Resistance’s efforts to counter them.

Excerpt from the interview:

Alan Sabrosky: My feet are not up on the desk, which would be insulting Islam, so we can go ahead.

Kevin Barrett: Putting your feet on a desk? I don't remember anything in the Quran against that.

Or it's throwing shoes, throwing shoes, I'm sorry.

Yeah, there you go, throwing shoes. I really thought that the Congresspeople ought to have been taking off their shoes and throwing them at Netanyahu. But I guess we're electing the wrong kinds of people to Congress. So, Alan, you mentioned how easy it is to hack into computers. The Iranians are saying that they hacked into some Israeli computers, along with firing a hypersonic missile right into the radar station and taking out Israel's air defense radars. That's why they were able to hit 90% of the targets that they targeted in their strike the other day. What do you think?

That's very possible. I don't have the kind of skills to do that, because among other things, I've never been interested in it. But there are some incredibly sharp and sophisticated young IT people out there, and a few not so young. The Israelis have a ton of them, and so do the Iranians, and so does almost everyone. There's some just incredibly skillful young people coming up.

You know Jeremy Rothe-Kushel, he's not a boy by any chance, but he is just incredibly good with computers. The downside of having gone so into the cybernetic AI field as we have—they’re almost a staple of our international communications and national communications for that matter—is that they can be circumvented and hacked.

Here is just a little aside that involves computers and also Iran. One of the more interesting exercises that I ran into a fairly short time ago involved a command post exercise. Every country does that. They have a lot of people and a lot of communications and not many actual forces, but they could use it because they're expensive to deploy and run. So they can use them to basically test war plans, test equipment, test tactics, test command, communications and leadership and all the rest of this.

Millennium Challenge 2002

And about 20 odd years ago, there was an exercise which was against a unnamed Persian Gulf power, but was obviously Iran. And a retired Marine Lieutenant General was put in charge, for the purpose of the exercise, of the Iranian forces. And he had to deal with the usual American carrier battle groups and land-based air and paratroops and Marines landing on Iran.

The understanding in these sorts of exercises is that what are called OPFOR, the opposition forces, are supposed to fight well and lose gracefully. Well, this Marine Lieutenant General, whose name is Riper, had no intention of losing gracefully. So he went through this and the usual bolt from the blue attack took place, which knocked out most of the Iranian air defense systems, aircraft, all the rest. A division of Marines and a division of Paratroopers landed in Iran. And the exercise proceeded, but at that point, it did not go as planned, because Riper looked at that and said…He understood that the systems would be compromised. He understood his air defense systems would be taken down. He understood his air force would be taken out because that's the way the technology goes and that's the weapon systems that are going to be employed. And so he basically went back and took a look at it and said, okay, there are earlier systems that won't be affected by electronic warfare, that won't be taken out. And so he used in place of his electronic communications. He used landlines run from different command posts to the various missile missile systems and various defensive systems. He used people on motorcycles carrying the messages by hand. He even used runners to get all of us to get the communications out and be able to get orders to his units and to get responses from them. And then he looked at the carrier battle group and he figured out, and you could get this on Jane's fighting ships, how many missile systems they have and how many air missiles the ship carries and all the rest of that. And he looked at that and he hit them. He hit them with more than they had. He hit them with dumb rockets and then not so dumb rockets, and then older guided missiles, and then newer guided missiles, and basically overwhelmed the air defense system. On the carrier battle group, to make a short story even shorter, he sank the entire carrier battle group in the exercise, the entire thing. 19 warships, including a couple of carriers, 20,000 sailors and Marines went to the bottom. Then he did the same thing to the ground-based system, which the United States side called foul because they were losing, and stopped the exercise. They decided to rerun it with him losing, and he refused and walked out.

But it's an idea that anyone can think of. When you know your best systems are controlled cybernetically and that cybernetics are inherently vulnerable to interference and hacking, you have backup systems that are not cybernetically linked and cybernetically controlled and that are in fact a less advanced militarily. A country can make use of things that are difficult to interrupt.

I mean, the only way to interrupt the landline is to cut it, break it, or get into it. And the only way to stop a guy on a motorcycle is to shoot him, block the roads, these things. And it's really something that people have been doing for a very long time. And they called it guerrilla warfare. And guerrillas never had the technology or the weaponry of the people they were fighting. But as the French learned in Indochina, as the Americans learned in Vietnam, as the Brits and the Russians and the Americans learned in Afghanistan, it can work. It can work.

I found that very interesting.

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Yesterday’s interview with Richie Allen is archived above. You can also catch today’s special two-hour live interview with Alan Sabrosky noon to 2 pm Eastern on www.RevolutionRadio (writeup HERE). That show will be archived later here at my Substack. Also don’t miss tomorrow’s False Flag Weekly News with Cat McGuire.

The interview with Richie begins:

Richie Allen: I heard an interesting thing today by a gentleman speaking on Sky News who would be a liberal. He would be, his name escapes me, but it doesn't matter. He's just a talking head who would be supporting Kamala Harris's bid for the White House. He said something interesting. I don't know how true it is or what you think. He said, I've begun to think he said, that the best thing for the region in the short term would be Donald Trump to be returned to the White House on November 5th, because if Trump gets in, the situation will stabilize and it'll be calmer because Trump will have more influence there than Kamala Harris. I'm not sure about it. How do you feel about that?

Kevin Barrett: I don't really agree with that. I think that based on his past record, it looks like Trump is owned by the Zionists at least as much as Biden and Harris are, and maybe more. It was under Trump's watch that the U.S. made the utterly insane move of moving its embassy to occupy Jerusalem. Now, the whole world agrees that that occupation has to end. Even the pro-Israel forces around the world insist that Israel withdraw from every inch of territory that it stole in 1967. Even if the world decides to let Israel keep the territory that it stole in its genocide of 1948, as opposed to forcing it to move back to its U.N. borders or better yet, just decolonizing the place like South Africa.

There's absolutely nobody serious in the entire world that accepts this notion that Israel gets to keep the land that it stole in 1967, which includes Jerusalem. So Trump moved that embassy, which was viewed as sheer lunacy by every serious person in the U.S. and elsewhere who knows anything about that issue. And he did so because he was owned lock, stock and barrel by Netanyahu and his cabinet of millenarian messianic fanatics.

It appears that if Trump is elected, that he will be owned by Netanyahu.

(As Philip Giraldi explains in his new article raising the possibility of a big Israeli false flag designed to get Trump elected…)

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Iranian missiles have destroyed numerous military targets in Occupied Palestine including the F35 base that launched the murder of Hassan Nasrallah, while numerous Israeli soldiers have already died in Lebanon.

Satellite images of an aircraft hangar at a key Israeli military airbase for US-made F-35 fighter jets show a large hole in the roof after Iran launched a massive barrage of ballistic missiles against the occupying regime’s bases.

Iran on Tuesday evening launched some 200 ballistic missiles toward the Zionist entity’s military and intelligence bases in a retaliatory attack, dubbed Operation True Promise II, which set off sirens all over the occupied Palestinian territories and sending Israelis to underground shelters.

According to Iranian media, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says Tehran will definitely give a “stronger and more crushing” response to Israel if it commits the “slightest” mistake.

Among the ballistic missiles that were used in the operation were Ghadr and Emad, as well as the latest Fattah hypersonic missiles, with 90 percent of the missiles hitting their intended targets.

Zionist media are reporting that eight Israeli soldiers were killed in Lebanon Wednesday, worrying Israeli leaders and already sparking reappraisals of war plans. Lebanese sources report much higher casualty numbers among the Israeli invaders.

The IDF and Israeli political echelons do not want to get stuck in a protracted operation that could boost Hezbollah, after it suffered several significant blows,” said Michael Horowitz, head of intelligence at Le Beck, a risk consultancy. “But that’s easier said than done.” (WaPo)

Al-Rudwan, Hezbollah’s elite military unit, was reported to have defeated the Zionist invaders in a stand-up battle.

Al-Jazeera is reporting that the Israeli invasion of Lebanon has already stalled, and that the Zionists are taking out their frustration by bombing Beirut. “The sources added that the Resistance fighters are attacking the front line of the invading forces as well as the IOF supply lines and gatherings within the occupied Palestinian territories.”

Meanwhile, according to al-Manar, “Yemeni Armed Forces (YAF) have claimed responsibility for a drone operation targeting Tel Aviv, known to its residents as Yafa. Brigadier General Yahya Saree, the spokesperson for the YAF, announced that multiple drones successfully struck important targets within the city without interception from Israeli defense systems.”

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I'd like to get your perspective on the increased Israeli aggression and the indiscriminate bombing campaign that we're seeing right now taking place in Lebanon.

Well, Israel is a state of terror. They're the leaders in developing terrorism in the modern world, as Thomas Suarez wrote in his brilliant book, State of Terror, now available on Amazon for $400 per copy, because apparently the Zionists tried to buy them all up.

This indiscriminate attack on civilians in Lebanon parallels the similarly indiscriminate attacks on civilians throughout occupied Palestine. And it reflects the fact that the Zionist grand strategy, and indeed the whole raison d'etre of the Zionist project is to eliminate the people of the region. They have to be eliminated in order to allow for the endless expansion of this messianic, millenarian, psychotic, so-called religious entity, which is what so-called Israel actually is.

It's not a normal state. It's not the secular nationalist state that Theodor Herzl supposedly created at the end of the 19th century. It's a centuries-old messianic millenarian project. And that's why Israel, even under its most supposedly secular leadership, has never declared its borders, because it wants to keep expanding and stealing more and more territory.

And that's what it's trying to do now. It's trying to find a way to accelerate its genocide of the Palestinians and get rid of as many Palestinians as possible, whether by mass murder or by expulsion, and then to similarly eliminate Lebanese people by mass murder and expulsion and try to steal the land, at least up to the Litani River.

Of course, they would love to take all of Lebanon. They would like to take most of Iraq, Syria, big parts of Egypt, all the way to the Nile. They believe that God gave them this land, and they're in this psychotic messianic millenarian frenzy of genocidal expansion at this moment. But the Axis of Resistance, despite these attacks on its leadership, is still strong.

The Zionists have miscalculated by believing that by murdering leaders that they should be negotiating with, that that is somehow going to be to their military advantage. Any such gains are only short term. And indeed, the forces that are opposing this Zionist Antichrist consist of people who are not afraid to die and in fact welcome death in a good cause, in the cause of God.

And so killing individuals simply increases the resolution and the determination and indeed the kind of spiritual intensity of those fighters who are resisting this kind of evil. And so this fight is already more than the Zionists bargained for. They were hit with a very powerful salvo of Iranian missiles, up to 90% of which hit their targets, very much like in the previous similar Iranian targeting of the Zionist entity in retaliation for this series of murders and acts of aggression and genocide.

And Iran showed that it is capable of penetrating the so-called Iron Dome and hitting the targets that it wants to hit. So far, Iran has been very restrained in hitting only the kind of military targets that will not lead to massive civilian casualties, but it has warned that the next time will be different.

So the Zionist entity is currently in a dilemma. Under this irrational leadership of Netanyahu and the messianic millenarian extremists around him, they've embarked on a course that they can't really turn back from. They're condemned to continue until finally it's going to reach the point that either maybe we get some kind of third world war, or they have to decisively back down, which would be a stinging defeat that very likely will mean the end of the Zionist entity.

So it hasn't surprised me that Hezbollah has been so active and successful in defending Lebanon, in killing a substantial number of the Zionist aggressors who are currently invading Lebanon, And I think that that is going to continue, and we're going to see that this war will end up being a vastly bigger disaster for Israel than the failed invasions of Lebanon in the past, including the most recent one in 2006.

Right. And about the assassination of resistance commanders and leaders, let's talk a little bit about that. That has been a futile attempt that has been carried out by the Israelis in the past. And it's been shown that eliminating leaders and commanders and individuals of the resistance will not defeat the resistance itself. Talk to us more about that issue as the spirit of the resistance in the words of many of the guests that we've spoken to here on Press TV is indefatigable and undefeatable.

Well, the Zionists have a long history of assassinations. They've very likely assassinated far more people than any other nation on Earth, which is astounding when you recognize that the Jewish population of Israel is only something like 7 million people. It's a very tiny little country, and yet they've managed to go all over the world assassinating so many people. And much of the time they've gotten away with it, but that's been largely because these assassinations were deniable, and also they were targeting entities that don't have the kind of religious spirit that their current enemies have. In the past they targeted enemies that maybe don't welcome martyrdom. And also they've disguised their assassinations and attributed them to their enemies in many cases.

Two of the most famous assassinations carried out by the State of Israel under a false flag were the murders of John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy. Just months before the assassination of John F. Kennedy in 1963, David Ben-Gurion, who is often credited as the founder of the modern state of Israel, resigned in order to oversee the preparations for that assassination. He worked through the Mossad's liaison with the CIA, James Jesus Angleton, as well as Israel’s organized crime assets, led by the head of all organized crime globally and especially in the Western Hemisphere, Meyer Lansky, and his underlings.

Those were the people who murdered President John F. Kennedy in order to preserve Israel's nuclear weapons program as explained in the book Final Judgment by Michael Collins Piper, and also in various books by Laurent Guyenot, the French historian.

That assassination, of course, would have meant the end of Israel if the American people had known who was behind it. And indeed, Golda Meir said, according to a direct eyewitness, according to Alan Hart, the former lead BBC correspondent for that region—Golda Meir said,"'Oy vey, if we get caught!’” That was her reaction to Israel's murder of President John F. Kennedy in order to preserve its nuclear program, which Kennedy had been absolutely dedicated to shutting down.

But they didn't get caught.

Back to the resistance.

Right. So they can run around the world killing people. There are so many more examples—the letter bombs to Truman and to Winston Churchill and on and on and on. Sometimes it (the murder attempt) works, sometimes it doesn't. But they've disguised it in many cases.

But n ow they're openly assassinating leaders of the resistance, which is basically the religious resistance now. And the resistance has become religious in part because Israel murdered the leaders of the secular resistance, the Palestinian Liberation Organization and its allies, as explained in the book by Ronan Bergman, Rise and Kill First. So now they've got this religious-based resistance that's spread out all across the region and is indeed beloved by a very large proportion of the world's Muslim population and across the global south. And this religious resistance is not afraid of martyrdom. Indeed, they embrace martyrdom. And the martyrdom of a leader of the religious resistance simply adds to the fighting spirit and the dedication and the absolute willingness to lay down one's life in the most effective possible fight against the evil entity that has been martyring their leaders.

So this is a huge miscalculation by the Zionists. They imagine that their enemies are like themselves, basically psychopaths who are just playing chess and trying to take over the opponent's pieces. They don't understand that these are human beings, and that when they martyr human beings who are fighting for the religious resistance, they are stoking the spirit of the religious resistance, which will rise up and fight five times or ten times or times as hard and as effectively.

So that's the mistake they're making.

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