It's been a devastating week in Los Angeles. We are so heartbroken for our city and also so grateful that we are safe. In the upcoming weeks please consider donating to one of the many organizations helping rebuild.

Annie and Kevin talk through the week, their complicated feelings about all of it and how a conversation quickly devolved talking to the kids.

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