Joel (shockingly) has an issue that needs to be unpacked.  It turns out words can be hurtful (even if not intended to be so) - and that people's feelings *are* valid.

Also if you are watching Better Call Saul but haven't finished it - here there be spoilers. (Sort of.  Proceed at your own risk.)

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