Two for Tea Podcast

Areo:

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https://areo.substack.com/

Areo’s PayPal:

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Counterweight:

https://counterweightsupport.com/

Rebecca Christiansen’s novel, We Make Mayhem (2020) can be found here:

https://www.wattpad.com/story/212324557-we-make-mayhem-boyxboy

Her earlier work, Maybe in Paris (2017) can be found here:

https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Maybe-in-Paris/Rebecca-Christiansen/9781510708808

Rebecca’s Letter exchange with Frank Brosell is here:

https://letter.wiki/conversation/153

For more of Rebecca’s wonderful letters:

https://letter.wiki/RebeccaChristiansen/conversations

Rebecca on Medium:

https://medium.com/@rebeccachristiansen

Follow Rebecca on Twitter: @rebeccarightnow

Further References

Markus Zusak, I Am the Messenger (2002) and The Book Thief (2005)

David Levithan, Boy Meets Boy (2005)

Becky Albertalli, Simon vs. the Homo Sapiens Agenda (2015)

Laurie Forest, The Black Witch (2021)

I know I’m late.. Every so often, a tweet or meme will go… | by Becky Albertalli | Medium:

https://medium.com/@rebecca.albertalli/i-know-im-late-9b31de339c62

Black Mirror (TV Series 2011– ) - IMDb:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/

Iain Banks, The Business (1999)

Joe Rogan interviews Elon Musk: Joe Rogan Experience #1169 - Elon Musk - YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPr5-27vSI

Salvation (TV Series 2017–2018) - IMDb:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6170874/

Samuel Richardson, Clarissa; or, The History of a Young Lady: Comprehending the Most Important Concerns of Private Life. And Particularly Shewing, the Distresses that May Attend the Misconduct Both of Parents and Children, In Relation to Marriage (1748). An account of how Richardson composed the novel can be found in T. C. Duncan Eaves and Ben D. Kimpel, Samuel Richardson: A. Biography (1971).

The 36 Questions That Lead to Love - The New York Times (nytimes.com):

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html

Timestamps

1:20 We Make Mayhem

7:43 Elon Musk and dating apps

13:27 Rebecca’s development as a writer

16:42 I read the opening chapter of We Make Mayhem

24:29 Wattpad responses to We Make Mayhem

28:58 Young Adult fiction

36:42 The publishing industry

38:58 Rebecca’s main influences as a writer

42:13 Why Rebecca writes in the voice of a young gay man

44:06 More on Maybe in Paris and Rebecca reads an excerpt

49:17 Advice for budding writers

Please Stop Imposing American Views about Race on Us - Persuasion:

https://www.persuasion.community/p/please-stop-imposing-american-views

The dangerous logic of anti-racism - UnHerd:

https://unherd.com/2020/11/the-dangerous-logic-of-anti-racism/

Biracial Britain by Remi Adekoya review: turning assumptions upside down | Evening Standard:

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/books/biracial-britain-mixedrace-remi-adekoya-review-b699865.html

Tomiwa Owolade, a writer for UnHerd:

https://unherd.com/author/tomiwa-owolade/

Tomiwa Owolade – Quillette:

https://quillette.com/author/tom-owolade/

Follow Tomiwa @tomowolade

Further References

David Olusoga, Black and British: A Forgotten History (2016)

Akala, Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire (2018)

Reni Eddo Lodge, Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race (2018)

UK rapper Wiley goes on hours-long anti-Semitic Twitter rant | The Times of Israel:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-rapper-wiley-goes-on-hours-long-anti-semitic-twitter-rant/

Remi Adekoya, Biracial Britain: A Different Way of Looking at Race (2021)

Barack Obama, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (1995)

Bernardine Evaristo, Girl, Woman, Other (2020)

Iona Italia reads from the preface, "The Half Caste" to her upcoming book "Fire and Vultures". - YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUunlGWqrw&t=2s

Shashi Tharoor, An Era of Darkness: The British Empire in India (2013)

Timestamps

1:30 The Americanisation of the British discourse on race

11:06 Reni Eddo Lodge

14:51 The terms BAME and white privilege

18:49 Diversity in the arts and journalism

24:48 The dangerous logic of anti-racism

39:05 Brits and the slave trade

44:53 Mixed race Britain

54:23 Life in Argentina

1:11:03 Nigeria

Preorders are very important to writers. Get hold of Jesse’s book here:

https://bookshop.org/books/the-quick-fix-why-fad-psychology-can-t-cure-our-social-ills/9780374239800

You can find Blocked and Reported here:

https://www.patreon.com/blockedandreported/posts

Jesse’s substack is here:

https://jessesingal.substack.com/

Further References

Christoph on Twitter @halalcoholism

Will Storr, Selfie: How We Became So Self-Obsessed and What It's Doing to Us (2017)

Here’s How Cornell Scientist Brian Wansink Turned Shoddy Data Into Viral Studies About How We Eat (buzzfeednews.com):

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemlee/brian-wansink-cornell-p-hacking

Russian Roulette - Derren Brown | FULL EPISODE! - YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBjyCCxOEUQ

Daniel Dresner, The Ideas Industry (2017)

Angela Duckworth, Grit: Why Passion and Resilience Are the Secrets to Success (2017)

Amy Cuddy: Your body language may shape who you are | TED Talk:

https://www.ted.com/talks/amy_cuddy_your_body_language_may_shape_who_you_are?language=en

Timestamps

03:51 Positive psychology and comprehensive soldier fitness

12:45 Thought leader mode vs. public intellectual mode

15:11 More on grit

21:09 The obsession with half-baked ideas

23:19 Primeworld

30:41 The superpredator panic

33:04 The jangle fallacy

37:00 The IAT (Implicit Association Test) and the fracturing of American society

46:30 How to avoid being fooled by bad psychology

Katie’s article on the disappearance of the lesbians is available in a public version here:

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/where-have-all-the-lesbians-gone-0a7

A longer version is also available on the Patreon for her podcast with Jesse Singal, Blocked and Reported:

https://www.patreon.com/blockedandreported

More background - LGBT Identification Rises to 5.6% in Latest U.S. Estimate (gallup.com):

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329708/lgbt-identification-rises-latest-estimate.aspx

If the Future Is Nonbinary, It's a Bleak One for Women - Slog - The Stranger:

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/11/30/36431918/if-the-future-is-nonbinary-its-a-bleak-one-for-women

Radclyffe Hall The Well of Loneliness (1928)

Living together and civil partnership - legal differences - Citizens Advice:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/living-together-marriage-and-civil-partnership/living-together-and-civil-partnership-legal-differences/

Map of States Where Same-Sex Couples Are Able to Get Joint or Second Parent Adoption | American Civil Liberties Union (aclu.org):

https://www.aclu.org/map-states-where-same-sex-couples-are-able-get-joint-or-second-parent-adoption

Timestamps

3:32 The decline in lesbian bar culture

11:26 The rise in transitions

13:09 The shift in terminology from lesbian to non-binary, the retrospective transing of historical crossdressing women, defining feminine gender roles

17:50 Masculine presentation among lesbians

29:25 Social contagion

32:12 Youth gender dysphoria

34:21 Internal gender identities

38:18 Lesbians and trans men

40:03 Gender identity and sexuality

48:11 From lesbian to queer

49:50 Bisexuality and female sexual fluidity, same-sex marriage and civil partnerships

You can find Aella’s blog here:

https://knowingless.com/about/

Follow Aella on Twitter @aella_girl

Mother-of-three says her sons were expelled from Catholic school because of her OnlyFans account:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/mother-only-fans-account-catholic-school-expelled-b1806998.html

Other Life with Aella - YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A15tiMRM8dE

Blocked and Reported: Let's Talk About Sex (And Hanukkah And Bad Journalism), Baby (feat. @Aella_Girl) (fireside.fm):

https://barpodcast.fireside.fm/44

Timestamps

0204 Aella’s religious family background, introduction to sex work

09:08 Differences between camgirling and OnlyFans; why some people prefer OnlyFans over online porn

19:56 The work involved

24:52 What is Aella’s specific appeal?

30:04 The dark side of sex work

33:48 Sex work as compassion

36:22 A few more dark sides

41:48 OnlyFans and the gig economy

43:53 Love and relationships as an OnlyFans girl

50:46 Self-presentation, image

54:00 Aella’s future

David’s book Atlas Hugged: The Autobiography of John Gault III can be found here:

https://atlashugged.world/

Home - Evolution Institute (evolution-institute.org):

https://evolution-institute.org/

NESCent: The National Evolutionary Synthesis Center:

https://nescent.org/

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged (1957)

B. F. Skinner, Walden Two (1948)

Cass Sunstein and Richard Thaler, Nudge: Improving Decisions About

Health, Wealth and Happiness (2009)

Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene (1976)

Massive Modularity - Oxford Handbooks:

https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780195309799.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780195309799-e-4

Selection by consequences | Behavioral and Brain Sciences | Cambridge Core:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/selection-by-consequences/0F69B44DBC37419B8EBD90B5667738ED

Acceptance and Commitment Therapy | Steven C. Hayes, PhD:

https://stevenchayes.com/category/acceptance-and-commitment-therapy/

George Eliot, Middlemarch: A Study of Provincial Life (1871–2)

Athena Aktipis, The Cheating Cell: How Evolution Helps Us

Understand and Treat Cancer (2020)

Timestamps

2:58 How David came to be interested in this topic and why he decided to put his thoughts into novel form

13:16 The mosaic of ideas

27:08 Randian economics and the alternative

39:26 Individual versus group-level perspectives in society and biology

50:11 Cooperation and cheating

55:54 Acceptance and Commitment Therapy

01:08:05 The advantages of the fictional form

01:13:05 The novel of ideas

Tom Chivers, The AI Does Not Hate You: Superintelligence, Rationality and the Race to Save the World (2019); alternative title The Rationalist's Guide to the Galaxy: Superintelligent AI and the Geeks Who Are Trying to Save Humanity’s Future

Follow Tom on Twitter @TomChivers

Nick Bostrom, Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies (2014)

Toby Ord, The Precipice: Existential Risk and the Future of Humanity (2020)

Eliezer Yudkowsky, Rationality: From AI to Zombies (2015)

Fantasia(1940) - The Sorcerer's Apprentice, First Part - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErKCq1IGIU

Fantasia(1940) - The Sorcerer's Apprentice, Second Part - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcesnqVF0us

Ursula K. Le Guin, The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas (1973)

Stuart J. Russell, Human Compatible: Artificial Intelligence and the Problem of Control (2019)

LessWrong

https://www.lesswrong.com/

Astral Codex Ten (substack.com)

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/

Timestamps

05:23 Why the AI threat is more like the Sorcerer’s Apprentice than The Terminator

15:13 What does it mean to be intelligent?

18:57 “The map is not the territory.”

21:53 Judging veracity based on psychology not facts, the rationalists

28:51 Why the singularity would be so uniquely dangerous

41:41 Utilitarian approaches to suffering

53:50 What the rationalists are like in person

For more on Michael visit:

https://michaelwstory.com/

Follow Michael on Twitter @MWStory

Philip E. Tetlock and Dan Gardner, Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction (2015)

Tom Chivers, The AI Does Not Hate You: Superintelligence, Rationality and the Race to Save the World (2019)

Nate Silver, The Signal and the Noise: Why So Many Predictions Fail—but Some Don't (2012)

James Surowiecki, The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter Than the Few (2005)

Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman, Judgment Under Uncertainty: Heuristics and Biases (1974)

Metaculus:

https://www.metaculus.com/questions/

Timestamps

03:43 The process of superforecasting with the example of predicting how long it would take to develop a coronavirus vaccine

12:50 The wisdom of crowds

18:04 The inside vs. outside view, anchors and base rates

23:15 The foxes versus the hedgehogs

29:39 The conjunction fallacy

37:15 Accountability, falsifiability, Brier scores

46:54 Loss of institutional credibility: a problem or an opportunity?

01:02:05 The importance of A/B testing

01:06:36 Back of the envelope (Fermi) calculations

01:12:11 Psychological characteristics of superforecasters, caring about being wrong

Greg’s book, Unlearning Liberty: Campus Censorship and the End of American Debate (2012):

http://www.unlearningliberty.com/

His booklet, Freedom from Speech (2014):

https://www.encounterbooks.com/books/freedom-from-speech/

Greg’s blog, The Eternally Radical Idea Archives:

https://www.thefire.org/category/newsdesk/eternally-radical-idea/

For more on FIRE:

https://www.thefire.org/

Follow Greg on Twitter @glukianoff; follow FIRE on Twitter @TheFIREorg

Further References

Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt, The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure (2018)

Greg and Jon’s previous appearance on Two for Tea:

https://soundcloud.com/twoforteapodcast/06-jonathan-haidt-and-greg-lukianoff

The Mighty Ira (2020):

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13027292/

Jonathan Rauch, Kindly Inquisitors (1993)

Star Trek - "The Charming Negress" - YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BBOWsWODX4

A ‘Global First Amendment’ - FIRE:

https://www.thefire.org/a-global-first-amendment/

NOTE: The section on profanity in Unlearning Liberty had indeed been cut from my version of the audiobook.

Timestamps

4:02 Since 2012, the shift from primarily administration-led to student-led censorship

08:41 Censorship gravity; free speech isn’t an intuitive value; free speech culture

12:38 The power of higher education as an institution

15:56 Is censorship a leftist thing?

18:08 Understanding the world as it is, the insufficiency of the marketplace of ideas metaphor

25:16 Group polarisation

29:33 The ideological uncertainty principle

31:10 Disinformation and conspiracy theorising

38:28 Hate speech, calling people names

44:32 Overbreadth and vagueness

45:57 Profanity

54:47 Harassment, hurt and the Davis standard

59:33 Missed opportunities and censorship after George Floyd’s death

01:01:48 The need for a global First Amendment

01:06:27 Social media

01:17:25 Disinvitations