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(0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Villamihia, in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts, in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating (0:14) world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and (0:22) specialist in working with children. And I'm a retired medical doctor (0:26) and consultant hypnotist. We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:36) Hi, I can't believe we're on episode nine already of this season. (0:43) It's, it's really... (0:43) Yeah, the season's been very, and the weather here has been so strange.(0:47) It's summer, practically, outside. (0:48) I was going to say it looked bright. (0:49) In the 70s, right? (0:50) Yeah.(0:51) And it's not raining. Yesterday was warm, but it rained. (0:54) So is all the snow gone now? (0:55) The official number, the official number is 69.(1:02) Except for the parts that got piled up because people just plowed and left. (1:08) Yeah. (1:09) No, like the salt, they look all right.But yes, it is, we've got a week before the New (1:14) Year, pretty much, a week and a bit. I say New Year, as I explained before, my religion, (1:20) our New Year is the first day of spring. (1:24) So explain that to... (1:27) My husband is feeling happier.(1:29) Explain why this is your New Year. (1:31) We're Baha'is. (1:32) Okay.(1:33) So every religion has its own calendar and our calendar says that first day of spring (1:38) is New Year. And it's preceded by a month of fasting for those under 70. (1:46) And so my husband, he has passed that number.He doesn't want to let go of the fast. (1:51) And he's still fasting. But the days are definitely getting much nicer.(1:56) It's very nice here today, very mild today. However, according to the weather, we have (2:03) got torrents of rain coming across. So that's what it's like, but I will... (2:08) Keep it there.We don't want it further. (2:11) No, it's actually coming. Yeah, it's actually coming from you, from your way.So I don't (2:15) know whether it's... (2:16) Oh, sorry about that. That was what we had last week then. (2:18) Probably, yes, exactly.My husband always, he always jokes about, because I'm originally (2:25) from Manchester and he always says that people from Manchester have webbed feet because it (2:30) constantly rains in Manchester. (2:32) Doesn't it rain all the time? (2:34) It doesn't, but yeah, the weather here has just been atrocious. Our garden is, it's clay.(2:42) It's, you know, the soil's very clay. So you can imagine it, it just absorbs all of the... (2:49) Heavy. (2:50) Yeah, all of the rain.(2:51) And backbreaking when you need to get out of the field. (2:54) It's just wet all the time. So that's delayed having my cabin built as well.So... (3:01) Oh, that's right. I forgot you were about to move in. (3:04) I know.But it's all right. It's all good. It's all good.(3:07) Yes, we are quite well established now and you've got, this is the, (3:12) you think this is going to be the ninth episode? It's difficult when you record ahead of time (3:16) to figure out where things are, but yes, that's good. So we're nearly done with (3:20) season eight and we'll be prepping for season nine. (3:23) We are, yeah.(3:24) Already had a guest agreed. (3:27) Yeah, it's exciting, isn't it? And I've learned so much. That is going to help my practice as (3:33) well because I never, I've run a podcast with Tony, one of our guests.We do a podcast, (3:41) but what we do is we send it out exactly as it is. We don't edit it at all. So that when I joined you (3:50) and you said that you and Martin edited it and took out al

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0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts, in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about (0:14) the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. (0:24) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist. (0:30) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:37) So, hi everybody, wherever you are. (0:40) We've got a very special guest today and his name is Tony Gordon.(0:44) He's a friend of mine as well. (0:46) I've done a lot of work with Tony over the years (0:48) and he's an empowerment leadership coach. (0:53) Welcome, Tony.(0:55) Thank you, Les. (0:55) And thank you, Denise, for having me on. (0:57) You're welcome.(0:59) So actually, it's a great opportunity to hear (1:02) somebody else's take on the work we do. (1:05) So that's really good. (1:06) How long have you been in that field? (1:09) I suppose five years.(1:11) Two thousand and twenty one. (1:14) I was made redundant from a bank I worked in, part of the HSBC group, (1:18) where I was a mental health first aider. (1:20) And I used to get frustrated in the bank that I knew I could tell people more, (1:24) but I wasn't allowed because being the first aider, (1:26) I had to then pass them on to counsellors.(1:30) And a lot of the people used to tell me that it was great doing that, (1:33) but it wasn't suitable for them. (1:35) It wasn't right for them. (1:36) So I used the redundancy to retrain rather just... (1:39) I've been a coach for over 20 years in the bank.(1:42) And what I decided to do was to train in hypnotherapy (1:45) because I'd been using self-hypnosis to help me through an illness (1:48) and realised that hypnotherapy and NLP, (1:52) which I found out through the same people, (1:54) hand-in-hand was probably the most powerful medium (1:57) that I found to help those people. (1:59) The coaching had done great things with them, (2:02) but not to the extent I could do with this. (2:05) Yeah, just a sort of asterisk there by that comment.(2:10) One of the things that we're concerned about is this overselling. (2:14) I absolutely think that, for a start, (2:16) every single person on the planet has been hypnotised in some way at some time, (2:21) not necessarily by a hypnotist, (2:23) but that this is a natural thing that happens (2:27) and we can all use it and get value from it. (2:31) And how do people find you these days? (2:35) Do you go out and speak or do you just romance? (2:39) I do a bit of everything.(2:42) Networking. (2:43) I was an ambassador for a network group for the last two years as well, (2:45) so I led the networks. (2:47) I do a lot of talks on different subjects as well (2:50) for people in the corporate world (2:52) as well as in private.(2:56) And also, a lot of my work has always came from referrals (3:00) from previous clients or companies that I've done work with (3:04) whose staff may suddenly have issues. (3:06) So although I've done the team building and leadership training, (3:09) they realise when the staff have certain issues there (3:11) that they can come to me (3:12) and I can do one-on-one with them as well. (3:14) Are these people who come to you for business issues (3:17) and you realise there are some underlying issues (3:20) that you can help them with? (3:21) Yeah.(3:22) A lot of the people who come when you do a lot of corporate things (3:25) don't always want to be in that room. (3:27) And yo

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Two Hypnotherapists Talking: Denise & Les Discuss Business and Referrals

(0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia here in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts in St Helens, United Kingdom.

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(0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.

Speaker 1

(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. (0:25) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist. (0:29) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode.

Speaker 2

(0:36) Come to you with what they would often say is a minor problem, but it's really impacting them. (0:43) What kinds of things?

Speaker 1

(0:45) Not so much now, but I used to get a lot of adults diagnosing themselves with anxiety disorder. (0:56) Coming in saying, my anxiety won't let me do this. (1:01) My anxiety does this to me.(1:04) I can't sleep because of my anxiety. (1:07) I can't go out because of my anxiety. (1:10) Did they know what was causing the anxiety?

Speaker 2

(1:13) Where it came from?

Speaker 1

(1:14) Yeah, sometimes. (1:17) However, yes. (1:18) So what I used to do is I used to ask them, first of all, I was quite to say, your anxiety, who's given it to you?(1:26) Who's given it to you? (1:28) Have you been diagnosed with anxiety? (1:30) And they'll go, no, I haven't.(1:33) Yeah. (1:33) So they haven't been diagnosed. (1:35) They've not had a formal diagnosis.(1:38) However, what they have done is diagnosed themselves, use that label and obviously been living up to that label as well. (1:47) Anxiety.

Speaker 2

(1:48) So once they, when they ask you, do you then say, would you like to try some hypnosis? (1:52) Would you like to try some chat with me and see if it works or do they come in seeking hypnosis because they're self-diagnosed?

Speaker 1

(1:59) So I explained to them that I am not qualified to diagnose anything. (2:05) All I can do is refer you back to your doctor. (2:09) Should you want a diagnosis of anxiety?(2:13) I do have a little anxiety questionnaire that I use with the adults, not with the children that can sort of.

Speaker 2

(2:22) Would you mind sending it to me?

Speaker 1

(2:24) No, I will send it to you. (2:26) Yeah. (2:26) A lot of adults will come in with self-diagnosed issues.(2:32) I have a phobia of this. (2:33) I have a phobia of that. (2:36) So again, I say to them, describe your phobia.(2:40) Why is it a phobia and not a fear? (2:43) And straight away, quite a few of them will go, Oh, I don't, I don't know. (2:47) I don't know the difference.

Speaker 2

(2:48) I think most people not having taught what they are, would say phobia is just worse fear. (2:55) It's a clinical word, so it must be a serious thing.

Speaker 1

(2:59) Yeah. (2:59) But we, we know, correct me if I'm wrong, Denise, that a phobia is something that's already happened to you. (3:05) You've had a past experience.(3:07) Say for instance, it was wasps or something. (3:10) You've had a past experience that's not been very good and it's.

Speaker 2

(3:15) Yeah. (3:16) Although very often, well, I would not, I would not define it that way. (3:24) Phobia is something that's, that's possible.(3:27) Fear is something that's possible. (3:28) Phobia tends to be unrealistic. (3:31) Like I personally have a phobia about sharks.(3:36) But you've never met. (3:37) Because I, I've met a dead one and I've seen lots of the aquarium. (3:4

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Nova Lewis www.essex-hypnosis.co..uk [email protected]

(0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise  Billen-Mejia in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts in St Helens, United Kingdom.

Speaker 3

(0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.

Speaker 1

(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children.

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(0:25) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist.

Speaker 1

(0:29) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking. (0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:36) Hello everybody from wherever you are in this world.(0:39) This is Two Hypnotherapists Talking, myself and Denise. (0:43) And we have a special guest on today, which is Nova. (0:47) And Nova runs Essex Hypnosis down south in England.(0:54) Welcome Nova. (0:55) Hello.

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(0:56) Or as we would say, over the pond.

Speaker 1

(1:01) Yeah, but I'm a bit over from south. (1:03) I just wanted to say down south, you see.

Speaker 3

(1:09) That's reasonable. (1:11) Okay, so Nova, what did you first concentrate on in hypnosis when you started walking?

Speaker 2

(1:22) So my first thing that I started with was quit smoking. (1:28) Wow. (1:29) Yeah.

Speaker 3

(1:30) Did you find it easy to market that? (1:33) I get a lot of people ask me if I do it, but when I say yes, they don't call for appointments.

Speaker 2

(1:40) Yeah, I did in the beginning. (1:42) Yeah, I did market it because it was one of the only things I was doing. (1:47) So yeah, I had to push for quit smoking clients.(1:54) Yeah.

Speaker 3

(1:56) How long is the program that you use to get something from smoking heavily to not smoking at all? (2:09) It is one session. (2:10) Three sessions.(2:11) One session.

Speaker 2

(2:12) One session. (2:13) Yeah. (2:14) Is it a longer session?

Speaker 1

(2:16) How long is the session?

Speaker 2

(2:17) Yeah, yeah. (2:18) So it can the session can go anything up to two hours. (2:22) Right.(2:23) Okay. (2:23) And a bit more sometimes just rings out the hypnotist usually.

Speaker 3

(2:31) Yeah.

Speaker 1

(2:32) Yeah. (2:33) Just through just talking about this, weren't we before we started recording and we were talking about how long we've all been, you know, practicing and what you know, what our easiest thing was. (2:46) And you said, Nova, your easiest thing was spoken.(2:50) And Denise and I both went, well, the easiest thing, because it's not there, is it really?

Speaker 3

(2:57) Well, people have so many reasons for asking about non-smoking programs without really engaging them. (3:03) They are not the ones asking. (3:05) It's because they want to change because of their girlfriend or because of their kids or whatever.

Speaker 2

(3:09) It's got to come from them. (3:11) Exactly. (3:12) And I find that I always with all my clients, if they're coming in for quit smoking, I will always say to them, are you doing this for you?(3:23) Is this about you wanting to do it? (3:26) Because I've had people contact me before that have said, oh, no, I'm doing it for ex family member or they want me to stop because I've got this wrong with me. (3:37) But then you're not doing it for you.

Speaker 3

(3:38) You never have anybody say, my doctor wants me to quit.

Speaker 2

(3:45) No, it's never about the doctor.

Speaker 1

(3:48) No, no. (3:49) It is so easy to ask those questions, isn't it? (3:53) You know, who are you giving up smo

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(0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts, in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. (0:25) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant to hypnosis. (0:30) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:36) So hi, it's just us again today, isn't it? (0:40) That was exciting.(0:43) We've had some really good guests on so far, haven't we? (0:47) So I thought, Denise, what about if we talked about our clients and explain to whoever is listening why we, of the craft that we deliver, hypnosis or hypnotherapy, is that much shorter rather than weeks or even months? (1:07) I think that, I mean, that's the big selling point.(1:10) Yeah, yeah. (1:11) The fact that hypnosis can get there really quickly compared to other forms of therapy. (1:17) And for most people, once that particular thing is fixed, it isn't like this wears off after a year.(1:25) No, you can be sure that you're OK. (1:28) And all of us, I don't know any hypnotist who wouldn't say, oh, just give me a call if it comes back. (1:34) You know, it's not, you know, we would re-address the issue.(1:38) Because we're dealing with the opposite side of the brain, aren't we, to traditional therapies like CBT and counselling? (1:46) Although I think it's more of an internal side of the brain. (1:49) Yeah, but one size doesn't fit all.(1:52) It doesn't mean to say that we're the better. (1:55) It just means that, you know, we can offer a different way, can't we? (2:00) Rather than just keep going week after week after week or month after month.(2:04) The really major difference, I think, is that with hypnosis, you don't have to keep going over whatever the original insult was. (2:14) It's something, we need to have some idea of what it was. (2:18) Otherwise, we can't craft or talk to you.(2:21) But you don't have to keep revisiting whatever the traumatic event was. (2:26) That's true. (2:27) And I find a lot of it, you can do it content-free, can't you?(2:32) You don't have to. (2:33) Like you said, you don't have to talk about it. (2:35) Because if you talk about it, you have to reprocess that.(2:39) And you're adding all different kinds of emotions and feelings each time. (2:43) Whereas if you deal with the emotions and feelings that are attached to whatever issue you've come to see us for, it just seems to fall into place, doesn't it? (2:55) But it's not an instant thing, even though it's a lot quicker.(2:58) It's not an instant thing, is it? (3:00) No, and obviously, it's also not. (3:02) It looks like the therapist is doing all the work.(3:06) The hypnotist is just, you know, zooming. (3:09) But the client has to, A, really be engaged. (3:13) Really wants the change.(3:15) So it's a lot more client-driven than they believe. (3:20) It is. (3:21) And also, the client needs to want that change.(3:25) But want that change for themselves, really, and not for anybody else. (3:29) Because we did touch a little bit with one of our guests, didn't we? (3:33) About making changes as in smoking or weight loss.(3:37) And you don't do it for anybody else. (3:40) You may have somebody in mind that, you know, you want to stay, you know, longer and be fitter to spend time with them. (3:48) But at the end of the day, it's got to be done.(3:51) Because really, you want to make this change. (3:53) Yeah, that's really the most important thing. (3:55) What's one of your most memorable clients?(3:58) The one that always is

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0:10) Hi, hello. So how are you doing? (0:13) Alright, okay. So this week over in the UK, it is Children's Mental Health Week.(0:20) So I've been busy, busy, busy putting a lot of information out on social media (0:27) about what Children's Mental Health Week means over here (0:33) and also other things, you know, to help parents. (0:38) So there's always a theme behind the Mental Health Week (0:42) and this year it is, this is my place. (0:47) That's the theme.(0:50) So who are they aiming that title at? (0:55) Children. So this is nice. (0:57) Okay, but children in foster care, children in class? (1:01) I think it's everywhere.(1:03) It's to help children and also to raise awareness (1:08) that children need to feel safe no matter where they are. (1:13) Do you still have a lot of immigrant children? (1:16) I mean, obviously people have been immigrated to Britain as long as they've been there, (1:19) but there were so many refugees coming across. (1:24) Is that still a large number? (1:26) I don't know about whether there's a large number still coming in, (1:31) but we have a large number.(1:32) We've got quite a large refugee community here where I live (1:38) and I had the pleasure of working with some refugees and their families. (1:45) A couple of summers ago I went over to a place called Birkenhead, (1:51) which is over the River Mersey. (1:53) You'll be familiar with that.(1:54) I've heard of, yes. (1:57) And I had the pleasure of working one summer with refugees and their families, (2:04) predominantly with the children, but their parents, some of the parents were involved. (2:09) What were you working with? (2:11) Just helping them to understand emotions.(2:14) We did a lot of crafting, which the mums joined in, (2:18) and just to help because these are children. (2:21) A loss of place in their home lands. (2:24) Yeah.(2:25) Some of them must have had really pretty nerve-wracking. (2:27) Yes. (2:28) So these are children from well-born areas who have literally come over on the boats, (2:36) and it's quite strange.(2:38) They're absolutely gorgeous

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0:10) Hi, hello. So how are you doing? (0:13) Alright, okay. So this week over in the UK, it is Children's Mental Health Week.(0:20) So I've been busy, busy, busy putting a lot of information out on social media (0:27) about what Children's Mental Health Week means over here (0:33) and also other things, you know, to help parents. (0:38) So there's always a theme behind the Mental Health Week (0:42) and this year it is, this is my place. (0:47) That's the theme.(0:50) So who are they aiming that title at? (0:55) Children. So this is nice. (0:57) Okay, but children in foster care, children in class? (1:01) I think it's everywhere.(1:03) It's to help children and also to raise awareness (1:08) that children need to feel safe no matter where they are. (1:13) Do you still have a lot of immigrant children? (1:16) I mean, obviously people have been immigrated to Britain as long as they've been there, (1:19) but there were so many refugees coming across. (1:24) Is that still a large number? (1:26) I don't know about whether there's a large number still coming in, (1:31) but we have a large number.(1:32) We've got quite a large refugee community here where I live (1:38) and I had the pleasure of working with some refugees and their families. (1:45) A couple of summers ago I went over to a place called Birkenhead, (1:51) which is over the River Mersey. (1:53) You'll be familiar with that.(1:54) I've heard of, yes. (1:57) And I had the pleasure of working one summer with refugees and their families, (2:04) predominantly with the children, but their parents, some of the parents were involved. (2:09) What were you working with? (2:11) Just helping them to understand emotions.(2:14) We did a lot of crafting, which the mums joined in, (2:18) and just to help because these are children. (2:21) A loss of place in their home lands. (2:24) Yeah.(2:25) Some of them must have had really pretty nerve-wracking. (2:27) Yes. (2:28) So these are children from well-born areas who have literally come over on the boats, (2:36) and it's quite strange.(2:38) They're absolutely gorgeous children, absolutely fantastic children, well-behaved. (2:43) Took an interest in everything that we're doing, really got stuck in. (2:47) But it was so funny because they've got, like, a foreign accent, (2:53) but mixed up with a Liverpudlian accent as well, so I found it quite amusing, actually.(2:59) But it was nice to work with them. (3:02) It was nice to... (3:04) How long had those children been there? (3:06) Because children pick up language so fast. (3:08) Not very long.(3:10) Some of them were in school already, (3:12) so hence, you know, their accents that they were picking up. (3:17) But not very long because they were still in hotels (3:22) because what this charity did, which is called Heart for Refugees, (3:28) and what this charity did was they raised money to help them, (3:33) and they had a community centre, like a church hall, (3:36) and the families used to come and cook because they couldn't cook in the hotels. (3:44) So they'd get food vouchers or they'd get money for food or however it worked.(3:48) Right, but that must have been really good because for a lot of people, (3:51) that's part of taking care of your kids, right? (3:54) Cooking for them, feeding them. (3:56) But it was nice, you know. (3:58) Do you know what was really nice, Denise, is to see different countries, (4:02) different cultures, different beliefs and everything all coming together (4:07) just to help each other.(4:09) It was lovely. (4:09) Yeah. (4:10) It was really lovely.(4:11) And of course, I got to taste some of the food, you know, as well. (4:14) That's also nice, isn't it? (4:17) Yeah. (4:18) But we have, here in St Helens where I live, we have

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Welcome to two hypnotherapists talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, in Delaware, USA. And me, Les Roberts, in St. Helens, United Kingdom. This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who would like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.

Les,I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. Deni

Denise, And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist. We are two hypnotherapists talking.

So let's get on with the episode. I'm lucky if some people can remember my first name. And I've seen what you're doing.

That's it. That's it. It's Turkish, so not everybody can pronounce it.

And those that can't pronounce it can't remember it. You're indelible in my memory. So how about we ask, what do you like to talk about? What do you think people don't know enough about in the world of hypnosis? In the world of hypnosis? Well, obviously, probably street hypnosis is the thing I'm well known for and I like to talk about.

Do you use that as an entertainment for people? Do people pay you to do it? Or do you use it just to gain awareness in the area? I'd say all of the above. You're happy people pay you? I say no, no, no, no. The thing is, that's how I got started in this crazy business called hypnosis.

I always say the phrase, I have no intentions of helping people. Isn't that a terrible thing to say in a therapeutic professional way? Like most people, maybe even people listening in tonight or today, this afternoon, whatever. I used to watch it on TV and say, oh, they're just playing along.

This is not real stuff. I have four kids and way back 10, 15 years ago, 16 really, 16 years ago, they were younger and I used to do what I call silly dad magic. I would produce a coin from behind their ear, that sort of stuff.

Nothing I'd probably do to an adult or in front of an adult. It was just to sort of play with the kids. And when I saw something on TV, it was actually Darren Brown.

You know, and he when he's talking about his, he says showmanship, misdirection, psychology and magic. He doesn't even mention hypnosis in that list of I think there's one more item he mentions, but none of them are hypnosis. So I thought, oh, that's magic trick and I do a little bit of magic for the kids.

I'll do that for the kids. And when I looked into it, I realized it was hypnosis and not magic. So I got interested in hypnosis that way.

Just for one second. Had you been introduced to hypnosis before that? Just like most people watching TV and Scooby Doo, you know, people getting hypnotized. My first experience was olive oil being hypnotized through a window and floating down to the sea.

And that was like when I was four. That's a long time ago. 20 years ago.

It's a long time. But yeah, so I went on a training course just to learn inductions. And I thought, right, I need to practice this.

And I always say this phrase, you know, if you're lea

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Les Roberts ACH                   https://www.lesrobertshypnotherapy.co.uk/further-information           

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Welcome to Season 8 of Two Hypnotherapists Talking.  As many of you know Martin passed away in late Ocrober 2025 and he really wanted THT to continue. Les Roberts has been a hypnotherapist for several year sand she has worked with children for many more and I was thrilled when she volunteered to join me in continuing our work of demystifying theraputic hypnosis.

In this first episode we just wanted to reintroduce the program and encourage you to send in your comments and questions

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In this episode of 'Two Hypnotherapists Talking,' Brenda Rhodes returns as a guest to discuss her innovative work with clients using left-handed techniques to access younger parts of the self for trauma release and playful expression.

She elaborates on her methods, particularly with children, using a play board to facilitate emotional release. Branda shares her extensive experience working with individuals affected by narcissistic behaviour, drawing from her own 30-year marriage. Brenda tells Denise and Martin about her new program, 'From Survive to Thrive,' to help clients overcome such trauma. Brenda also talks about her upcoming presentations in Ireland, Orlando, and New Zealand, focusing on energy, hypnosis, and working with narcissists.

She briefly discusses her recent publications, 'Great Relationships' and 'The Worry Detox,' which provide tools for self-care and stress management. The episode emphasises the importance of self-love and finding the right support to navigate and overcome personal challenges.

This podcast is unlike any other. It’s a weekly transatlantic Zoom call between two professional friends and colleagues who want to share their knowledge and experience with anyone and everyone who ever wanted to know more about therapeutic hypnosis and the benefits it offers. They feature a guest every other week, and aim to remove much of the mysticism around this much misunderstood discipline.

Denise Billen-Mejia https://www.healandberadiant.com

Martin Furber https://www.martinfurber.com

Brenda Rhodes https://allentownhypnosis.com

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