The two pastors talk about the risks involved in putting aside our own opinions and beliefs so that we can listen to and understand those of another person.

The two pastors talk about managing and transforming our emotions.

The two pastors talk about managing stress, adjusting schedules and finding our breath.

The two pastors talk how our human relationships rest on us negotiating how we love and are loved. How then do we negotiate a relationship with a love that is non-negotiable?

Additional reference:

Doughnut Plant:  www.doughnutplant.com

What do you think of art that has Jesus as the subject? Listen to two pastors talk about the importance of imagination in understanding ourselves and God better.

Additional references:

1.  Norman Mailer - “The Gospel According to the Son”  amzn.to/1SujxVR

2.  Christopher Moore - “Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal” amzn.to/1oyEnBh

3.  Elizabeth Cunningham - “The Passion of Mary Magdalen” (from “The Maeve Chronicles” series)  amzn.to/1QwhrC7

4.  Anne Rice - “Christ the Lord: Out of Egypt” (from “Life of Christ” series)  amzn.to/1TCRkgT

5.  Wm. Paul Young - “The Shack” amzn.to/1pubJI5

Stevie Wonder provokes the two pastors to talk about the importance of accessibility for all people and the need to use our senses in faith.

Additional reference:

Stevie Wonder and Pentatonix at the 2016 Grammys: huff.to/1mE8QTd

The two pastors discuss how faith is invisible and religion is its form.

Additional references:

1. Morgan Spurlock, "Inside Man in Nashville:" youtu.be/KkxKZqzwb7Q

2. The Clergy Project, a safe community for clergy who no longer have supernatural beliefs: http://clergyproject.org

The Two Pastors chime in on Beyoncé’s halftime show and her new video that has sparked conversations about racism.

Additional references:

1. Beyoncé’s "Formation" video: bit.ly/1ml2B6p

2. Super Bowl 50 Halftime Show: youtu.be/L_Hgh7sPDLM

3. Kara Walker's "The Sugar Sphinx:" bit.ly/1lxoFo5

Meet Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends who happen to be pastors.

Michael and Beth talk about Donald Trump, the changes in middle class, conversations on race, age and ability and why it’s so hard for everyone to “get along.”