All of us have been in a meeting or gathering where we think we don’t quite belong; we aren’t nearly as good, as smart, as as the others in this room. Listen in on the two pastors as they talk about our ongoing conversation with shame and vulnerability. 

Pastor Michael went to Disney recently and has a renewed appreciation and understanding of “magic”. We all want to experience the extraordinary in some way and we all have been disappointed when left with what seems ordinary. 

In this solo-pastor episode, Pastor Michael reflects after returning from vacation, that Walt Disney created a world according to his vision of how our world could be a better place. In a sense, so did Jesus! What role do we, the church, have in this?

In this special, one-pastor edition of Two Pastors' Podcast, listen in as Pastor Beth reflects on building relationships and belonging in community with those who are different than us.

Lord have mercy: the two pastors cover a lot of ground but it’s a great ride. They touch on topics that include global warming, our relationship with our planet and environment, and our connectivity to one another, Come along!

Pastor Michael is coming off his first teaching gig. Listen in as the two pastors talk about questions and learning, deconstruction and reconstruction.

Pastor Michael is teaching a course at Drew University this month. The two pastors talk about compulsory education and the nurturing of white American culture as it relates to faith formation and the next generation of the church. 

We join Pastor Beth as she describes some recent experiences from the coaching class she is taking. This leads the two pastors into taking a look back at the last year, using a resource by Maryann McKibben Dana, a pastor, author and coach from the DC area.

Paige Osbourne, Pastor Michael's stepdaughter, stopped by the studio to talk to Pastor Beth about her astrological chart. But of course the conversation is broader than just her chart. Paige shares how it’s all much “bigger than us.”

What are our reflections as we turn to the winter solstice and Christmas celebrations? What does this time of year mean? As pastors, both Michael and Beth take this time to pause, remember and hold what is most important.