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In this episode of Two Percent, Michael sits down with backcountry bow hunter and filmmaker Donnie Vincent to unpack what months in remote wilderness teach you about stress, calm, and competence. Donnie was featured heavily in Michael’s bestselling book, The Comfort Crisis, and now he joins Michael for the first time on mic since the book’s release.
They talk about the ethics and emotional reality of hunting, why sourcing your own food changes your relationship with life, and how modern convenience hijacks the ancient “search” that once made humans thrive. Donnie shares stories from Alaska—about storms, solitude, and the kind of discomfort that forces growth.
The two discuss the importance of building resilience when nothing's certain, staying present in wild places, and how you can get the same benefits of a hunt without ever picking up a bow – all it takes is choosing experiences that are hard and honest.
HOST
Michael Easter
PRODUCERS
Dana Brawer
Joey Fischground
Robbie Hiser
EDITOR
Nick Pomeroy
HEAD OF VIDEO
Maria Paz Mendez Hodes
KALEIDOSCOPE - EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS
Julia Nutter
Kate Osborn
Mangesh Hattikudur
IHEARTMEDIA - EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS
Katrina Norvell
Nikki Ettore
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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:07:18 - The First Kill & What It Feels Like
00:12:30 - The Ethics of Hunting in a Modern World
00:16:54 - What Hunting Gives You Beyond Meat
00:20:00 - The Frozen Pond Duck Story
00:28:16 - 5 Months Alone Counting Salmon in Alaska
00:33:00 - The 1,000-lb Bear & "Don't Quit Until the Magic Happens"
00:46:17 - "Make Films Like No One Will Watch Them"
00:52:00 - How Authenticity Changed Hunting Culture
01:01:06 - Fantastic Places Are in Your Mind
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Walking shaped humans into who we are—and it’s one of the simplest ways to improve health, mood, and longevity right now. In this episode of Two Percent, Michael sits down with evolutionary geneticist Dr. Melissa Ilardo and writer Foster Kamer to explore what endurance science says about how far humans can actually go, why the brain often quits before the body, and how small daily choices compound into massive long-term outcomes.
We cover the real research behind step counts (including why the 10,000 number is a myth), the minimum effective dose that meaningfully improves health, and how to make walking effortless by stacking it into things you already do. Plus: persistence hunting, sleep differences that change performance, and what ultra-endurance reveals about mindset.
HOST
Michael Easter
PRODUCERS
Dana Brawer
Joey Fischground
Robbie Hiser
EDITOR
Nick Pomeroy
HEAD OF VIDEO
Maria Paz Mendez Hodes
KALEIDOSCOPE - EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS
Julia Nutter
Kate Osborn
Mangesh Hattikudur
IHEARTMEDIA - EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS
Katrina Norvell
Nikki Ettore
THEME MUSIC BY
Heat Manager
Chapters:
0:00 Cold Open
0:45 Introduction: Welcome to 2%
2:16 Why Is It Called 2%?
3:03 Today's Topic: Walking
3:35 850 Miles Through the Utah Desert
6:08 The Long Walk Movie Setup
7:59 Interview: Melissa Allardo (Evolutionary Geneticist)
9:23 Persistence Hunting: We Literally Outrun Animals
10:31 Biggest Hurdles: Nutrition, Footwear & Sleep
12:03 Sleep Genetics & Natural Short Sleepers
13:57 Training vs. No Training
15:10 How Far Humans Used to Walk (Hadza 20K Steps)
16:07 Why Women Outlast Men in Ultra-Endurance
17:21 Pregnancy Is a Marathon Every Single Day
18:39 Mindset & The Central Governor Theory
21:27 Immune System Suppression During Endurance
22:25 Finding Joy in Movement
24:38 Practical Takeaways from the Movie
27:07 Interview: Foster Kamer (The Grief Walk)
30:37 The Friendship & The Loss
32:06 The Walk Begins
33:24 Crossing Every Bridge in NYC
43:39 The Long Island City Connection
44:01 Coming Home (24-25 Miles)
45:36 The Insight: Pushing the Edge
47:53 Year 2: The George Washington Bridge
52:17 The Lesson: New Things Are Possible
53:54 Walking as Processing & Pilgrimage
56:10 How Many Steps Do You Actually Need?
56:56 The 10,000 Steps Myth (Invented by a Pedometer Company)
57:34 The Real Numbers: 7,000 vs 12,000 Steps
59:07 How to Actually Get Your Steps
1:00:26 Closing: Have Fun, Don't Die
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From New York Times bestselling author and journalist Michael Easter comes a twice-weekly deep dive into the science of living better by doing things the hard way. Building on the insights of his #1 Substack and acclaimed books, Easter balances rigorous evidence with a healthy dose of skepticism to cut through the noise of the modern wellness industry. Whether he’s interviewing elite explorers and Harvard biologists or deconstructing the truth about longevity and metabolic health, this isn't a show for "biohacking" perfectionists—it’s a grounded, often humorous guide for real people looking to build resilience and agency in an increasingly comfortable world. From ancient wisdom to cutting-edge research, listen to Two Percent to discover why the antidote to modern malaise is often found in the challenges we’ve been taught to avoid.
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