Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany bare it all—again—in this deliciously unexpected tale of how one round of Yay, Nay, May or Oh, I’ve Played turned into Josie’s first taste of girl-on-girl fun. Your favorite vampires spill every juicy detail about how a couple of espresso martinis, a few lemon drops, and four best friends in a flirtatious mood brewed up the perfect concoction for a night of naughtiness no one saw coming—especially Josie, who’s always been adamant she was only into men.

When the fangs came out and the clothes came off, everyone found themselves feasting on the moment, savoring a completely surreal play session so organic and electric it rocketed straight to the top of their all-time naughty list. For once, even Zack’s mind stopped spinning long enough for him to soak it all in—every moan, every bite, every surprise twist.

So pour yourself a martini (or three) and listen in as the Two Plus Two Crew relives the night Josie discovered how fun a little girl-on-girl action —with the right woman can be. After all, when vampires mix martinis with mischief, no one’s safe from temptation.

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(00:00:00) A little teaser…

(00:01:29) Flashback to a conversation we had before we recorded our last episode

(00:03:03) Back to the present…

(00:04:32) Espresso and lemon drop martinis…the magic combo for naughtiness

(00:06:09) That’s when her clothes came off

(00:08:30) It turned into a M.A.S.H. unit triage

(00:09:19) It just felt organic

(00:10:18) We were like the Three Stooges running around setting things up

(00:12:39) Brittany goes down on Josie

(00:15:06) Sunday Fun Day

(00:17:17) Zack’s role in Josie’s experience was very surreal

(00:19:39) Why it worked even though it was not a decision we made together

(00:20:53) What just happened?

(00:21:45) I was almost as surprised as you!

(00:23:19) Best foursome by definition I’ve ever had

(00:25:34) It was all gas, no brakes

(00:28:11) I know what to do with this

(00:29:20) There’s one more thing

(00:30:32) What does this mean for me?

(00:31:53) Vampire evolution

(00:33:59) There doesn’t have to be a label on it

(00:35:06) What the lifestyle is all about [for Zack and Josie]

(00:37:11) When your motives for getting in may be selfish

(00:39:13) A different kind of growth

(00:42:25) Breaking the seal

(00:45:22) I made you squeal

(00:46:19) Zack’s big ‘O’ and Brittany’s booty

(00:48:46) Sometimes we get in our own way(00:50:13) Being structured vs go with the flow

(00:55:32) What makes going ‘off script’ work

(00:56:25) From our listeners

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(00:58:46) Parting thoughts on our impromptu play session 

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Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their teeth into another juicy topic—friendship. In this episode, your favorite swingers share all the complexities that come with lifestyle friendships—from the deep, delicious bonds that form when playmates become true friends to the challenges that level of closeness can create.

They discuss whether it’s hotter to unwrap new treats or savor familiar bites. They tease apart whether playing with friends keeps the sparks flying or risks making those late nights feel like déjà screw. From sexy secrets to group getaways, they swap stories about making memories on the road—and in the sheets—without limiting opportunities for new play experiences.

But even the undead aren’t immune to heartbreak. The Two Plus Two Crew opens up about losing a close lifestyle friend and why those goodbyes can cut deeper than fangs ever could. So pour a glass, cozy up, and let these four remind you why, in the vampire coven of swinging, friends really do come first.

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(00:00:00) Does friendship enhance or hinder the play experience?

(00:04:21) Play experiences shouldn’t feel repetitive…we’re not poly

(00:08:35) We don’t have sex all the time, but spoiler alert…when we do, it’s fucking hot

(00:09:10) Some relationships are deeper, more authentic

(00:13:02) Are close relationships a double edged sword?

(00:15:47) What makes a sexual relationship a FWB relationship?(00:18:57) Keeping friendships sexy

(00:22:27) Lifestyle trips with friends and debriefing in the Sapphire Lounge

(00:27:09) Vampire reunions at Desire

(00:31:43) Challenges with traveling or going as a group

(00:36:21) Receiving judgment from your friends

(00:39:29) Communicating and setting expectations

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(00:43:53) Vulnerability, trust and deep relationships

(00:47:51) The devastation of losing a close friend

(00:50:12) The naked girl at The Sweet Spot

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The vampires are back for another bite of bold truths and tantalizing tales in Round Two of “Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played.” This time, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sink their teeth into an even naughtier menu of topics—sex swings, butt plugs, hair pulling, ball gags, flogging, virtual hookups, public escapades, and glory holes. No kink is safe and no secret stays buried for long.

Fueled by Josie’s dangerously delicious espresso martinis—swiftly followed by a round of lemon drops (aka “truth serum”)—Brittany is in rare, unfiltered form, letting the confessions fly and dragging the rest of the crew right into the tease. Between bursts of laughter and a few jaw-dropping reveals, these vampires discover that a well-timed cocktail can turn a hard ‘nay’ into a very eager ‘yay.’

Expect unexpected switches, sultry surprises, and a few spicy schemes that have Zack and Brad reconsidering their safe words. From playful spanks to public peeks, this episode is dripping with double meanings and delightfully dirty details that might just inspire listeners to find a swing—or a flogger—of their own.

Naughty, nosy, and deliciously unfiltered—just the way these vampires like it. Sink your teeth in and see where you land: yay, nay, may… or oh, you’ve played.

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(00:00:00) Round Two! Will it be as popular as the first?

(00:02:16) Sex swings…thanks for the espresso martini!

(00:08:04) Sex, errrr, I mean yoga chairs

(00:11:23) Butt plugs…I stuck a finger up your ass and you didn’t like it

(00:18:16) Hair pulling…I like it rough

(00:22:26) Ball gags…bring out the Gimp!

(00:27:37) A rabbit hole about flogging

(00:34:00) Josie’s fantasy about St. Andrews Cross changes the boys’ answers

(00:40:46) Virtual sex and recording play sessions

(00:48:06) Public sex in playrooms; voyeurism and exhibitionism

(00:54:48) Glory holes

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In this tantalizing travel episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany bare it all—well, at least metaphorically—as they sink their teeth into the steamy world of lifestyle vacations. From sultry swinger cruises to resort romps that promised more than they delivered, the hosts dish on the highs, the lows, and the downright “what were we thinking?” moments of their past getaways.

With plenty of laughs and more than a few playful jabs, the crew compares notes on their favorite bites—err, nights—and reveals what really gets their fangs out when it comes to group travel. They don’t hold back on sharing tips for event hosts (consider it a little tough love with a leather twist), and they offer advice for fresh vampires trying to navigate the buffet of lifestyle trips without getting burned.

Whether you’re looking to book your first seductive escape or just enjoy the vicarious thrills, this episode will leave you thirsty for more… and maybe booking your next room with a mirror on the ceiling.

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(00:00:00) How energy impacts your experience

(00:06:47) Volume of people and variety of activities

(00:08:20) Shared arrival and departure days

(00:10:23) Seizing opportunities

(00:11:57) Spontaneity vs planned meetups

(00:14:49) Fishing with a harpoon vs a net

(00:18:28) Two Plus Two therapy

(00:20:11) Take sex out of it….what?!?!

(00:24:01) Feeling trapped

(00:26:04) Endless sun and loud music

(00:27:50) Party barge or RV equivalent

(00:29:24) Pussy floss and sugar babies

(00:36:48) Those dirty swingers

(00:38:13) Being outed on an LS trip

(00:39:31) Being ‘in public’ on a lifestyle vacation

(00:44:00) Staff and dining options

(00:49:01) Accommodations matter 

(00:51:52) Come see us at Scarlet Ranch in August

(00:52:45) Onsite play

(00:57:20) The ‘perfect’ lifestyle vacation

(00:59:38) What the hell are you talking about?

(01:01:38) Understanding and crafting your best experiences

(01:06:05) Two Plus Two Crew in Europe

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In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into the nuanced world of age and attraction in the lifestyle. Drawing from their experiences navigating the age gaps within their own relationships, they explore how those differences influence confidence, chemistry, and connection.

They ask the big questions: How young is too young? How old is too old? Along the way, they unpack the frustration of misleading online profiles and discuss generational differences in their attitudes about sex.

From biology and instinct to fantasy and fulfillment, the conversation spans everything from the science behind our desires to the spark that can come from a significant age difference. Whether you're seasoned or just getting started, this candid and insightful discussion offers something for everyone curious about how age plays a role in the lifestyle.

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(00:00:00) She’s a cougar

(00:03:41) Skewing older or younger

(00:06:07) Age can be a limiting factor

(00:07:17) I washed my hair for this?

(00:10:43) Representing yourself honestly

(00:11:23) They’ve gotta be legal

(00:13:48) We don’t discriminate

(00:16:00) Largest LS age demographic

(00:19:00) Younger generation is more fluid

(00:21:03) Is free love coming back?

(00:23:49) Age and online profiles

(00:28:16) Stacy’s mom

(00:30:07) Is it age or is it maturity?

(00:33:42) I was fishing in the wrong pond

(00:35:10) It’s biological

(00:37:45) A teenager’s fantasy

(00:41:23) With age comes confidence and that’s attractive

(00:43:29) We’re in the sweet spot

(00:47:59) Fantasies revolve around novelty

(00:49:32) What the hell is going on with Brittany?

(00:50:12) I’ll be your home run

(00:53:28)I It’s all a fantasy and age is part of it

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In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany unpack the complex and often unspoken dynamics of post-play cuddling, reconnection, and reclaiming your partner.

While the play may be over, what happens next—whether it’s a gentle caress, an awkward shuffle, or a full-on cuddle puddle—can bring up a surprising mix of emotions. The group explores why post-play intimacy, especially cuddling, can sometimes feel even more personal than the play itself, and how this moment can either strengthen connection or stir up unexpected discomfort.

They open up about their own preferences—who likes to cuddle, who doesn’t, and why that might change from one encounter to the next. With thoughtful reflection, a dose of vulnerability, and plenty of laughter, the conversation stays honest and playful, even as it touches on some deeper or more taboo corners of lifestyle dynamics.

This is one of those episodes that’s both real and relatable, full of nuance, self-awareness, and hilarious stories from the swingy side of life.

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(00:00:00) Determining when the play session is over

(00:05:16) Choosing your own meaning

(00:07:26) It’s an evolution

(00:09:33) Lead up to play and post play similarities and differences

(00:10:49) PDA with play partners

(00:11:55) Jealousy can creep in

(00:14:18) Sometimes it’s just easy

(00:15:26) Determining when the play session is over

(00:18:52) Cuddling or punting

(00:20:56) It’s weird to see your partner cuddle someone else

(00:24:38) It can feel very intimate

(00:27:10) Stop touching me!

(00:29:41) Fucking, sex and making love

(00:33:58) Puppy piles and hot conversations

(00:35:36) How long is too long?

(00:38:55) When the play session is bad we don’t cuddle

(00:40:49) That pussy’s mine

(00:43:44) Replaying the highlight reel

(00:46:38) The penis is a semen plunger

(00:48:06) We didn’t follow the script!

(00:51:29) Play sessions with a time constraint are exciting

(00:54:37) Reconnection; reclamation

(01:00:10) Oxytocin and sex

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Things get hot—and a little uncomfortable—as hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany slide into a topic every swinger should know about but few want to talk about: STIs. But leave it to this crew to make even that a good time.

From testing (how, when, and how often) to sharing results with partners—both current and past—they cover it all with their signature mix of sass, honesty, and just the right dose of inappropriate humor. Josie and Brittany get personal, opening up about their own experiences with STIs, while the group offers real-world advice that’s as helpful as it is hilarious.

Yes, it’s one of their more serious episodes—but they keep it interesting by poking a bit of fun at STI nicknames, cracking jokes and roasting one another. Think of it as the sex-ed class you wish you had in middle school… but way hotter and with better banter.

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(00:00:00) On a scale from dirty to dirty

(00:05:42) Breaking down STI’s

(00:08:40) HPV and Herpes…personal experiences

(00:14:34) Nicknames for STI’s and green gooey stuff

(00:17:40) It’s all fun until you get it

(00:19:20) Stats from the CDC

(00:21:59) Lifestyle folks are conscious of STI’s

(00:24:32) Many are asymptomatic

(00:27:05) Prevention & sharing your STI status

(00:29:07) Handling an outbreak

(00:31:28) Sharing test result status

(00:34:27) Lifestyle cruises, takeovers and other high ‘volume’ events

(00:36:44) Don’t ask, don’t tell

(00:40:48) How often is often enough

(00:45:36) Our eyes are open in this lifestyle…or are they?

(00:47:40) Vaccinations and preventative medications

(00:51:17) Testing at the same time vs staggering tests

(00:53:09) Where to test and what they ask

(00:55:49) An anal swab story

(00:58:50) At home tests and discounts

(01:00:30) Benefits of anonymity

(01:01:18) Different STI’s are tested differently

(01:02:08) Sharing positive test results with partners

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Studies and Information Sources

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27902890/

https://www.jscimedcentral.com/public/assets/articles/sexualmedicine-4-1062.pdf

https://www.2minutemedicine.com/stis-and-recreational-drug-use-pre

- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27902890/valent-among-swingers/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28373241/

Testing

• Frequency, Where & Cost [April 2025] 

• Frequency

• Ideal: after every new partner

• Realistic: Every 3 months

• Immediately upon symptoms

• Alternate testing schedules with your partner can help

• Where

• Primary Care Physician

• Government/Health Clinics/Planned Parenthood/Labs

• https://gettested.cdc.gov/ 

• STDcheck.com ($139, $10 off with link: https://www.tkqlhce.com/click-101420490-12873415)

• HealthLabs.com ($139)

• QuestHealth.com 

• chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, and HIV 1 & 2 ($155)

• chlamydia, gonorrhea, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, trichomoniasis, syphilis, HIV 1 & 2 ($288)

• Urgent Care

• Home Test Kits

• Let’s Get Checked

• Everlywell.com 

• MyLabBox.com  

  
  

• Sharing positive results; how to communicate; what to do next.

• https://www.stdcheck.com/anonymous-notification.php

• https://tellyourpartner.org/ 

In this juicy, no-holds-barred episode, your favorite foursome—Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany—dive headfirst into one of the lifestyle’s most nerve-wracking realities: the fear of being outed. With equal parts humor and heart, they unpack what it feels like to live double lives—respectable business owners by day, sexy vampires by night—while society looms over them like a nosy HOA board with a stick up its ass.

The gang explores how being exposed could impact their livelihoods, reputations, and relationships with family members who still think “ethical non-monogamy” is just a fancy way of saying “cheating.” From quiet paranoia to slow-burning anxiety of knowing your whole life could be derailed by a single screenshot, they each rank their current fear level on a scale of 1 to “I just bought a burner phone.”

Zack and Josie spill the beans on being outed in their past relationships and a recent close call that had them sweating more than a newbie at their first play party. Still, despite the fear, there’s a seductive fantasy lurking underneath—a world where they could live authentically and proudly... without losing their jobs, their moms' respect, or access to Sunday potlucks.

It’s vulnerable, it’s hilarious, and it’ll definitely make you triple-check who’s following your Finsta.

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(00:00:00) This could be a trap

(00:05:00) It feels like a betrayal of trust

(00:06:34) Fear of judgment

(00:08:09) Sharing our secret was exciting

(00:09:44) I threw the Hail Mary at ‘em

(00:12:20) A little surprise for Zack

(00:16:00) Being clandestine is fun

(00:19:26) Just put it on one check…we’ll figure it out

(00:21:42) It’s all in the family

(00:24:40) I always wondered if you were a swinger

(00:26:34) I’m gonna’ tell your mom!

(00:28:47) My mom can’t keep a secret

(00:33:15) Embarrassing moments

(00:36:20) Don’t ask, don’t tell

(00:38:53) Six cocks of separation

(00:42:50) The best husband on the planet

(00:43:57) Releasing the pressure

(00:46:20) Business blowback

(00:51:35) Career suicide

(00:54:35) I wish we could share our success with our family

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(00:56:52) Protecting ourselves from exposure

(01:01:13) Gotcha’ Bitch! 

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In this playful and revealing episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into a spicy game of “Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played.” From hard no’s to enthusiastic yeses—and everything in between—the crew shares where they stand on a wide range of sex acts. As the game heats up, unexpected confessions lead to laughter, curiosity, and even a few secret fantasies. Each answer peels back another layer, sparking bold stories and steamy moments that might just leave listeners blushing.

From awkward overshares to hilarious hypotheticals, this episode is full of outrageous laughs, unexpected reactions, and stories that probably shouldn’t be told—but definitely are. It’s naughty, it’s honest, and it’s the most fun you’ll have learning way too much about four very unfiltered friends.

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(00:00:00) Yes, No, Maybe list…our gateway drug

(00:02:24) Remote sex toys

(00:03:56) Fun, new fishbowl idea!

(00:04:50) Cock rings…not for me

(00:07:02) Squirting

(00:07:53) Is it sprinkling…no, it’s me

(00:10:11) It was like getting a navage irrigation

(00:12:36) Edging

(00:14:39) A three hour tour

(00:15:36) It’s like a super soaker

(00:17:21) Blindfolds

(00:18:16) Hot and cold play…a play buffet

(00:20:26) Spanking

(00:22:14) Handcuffs…’suck cock, but don’t do that!’

(00:23:50) And we’re havin’ a pizza

(00:25:00) I like to service my service men and women

(00:27:48) Shibari

(00:29:20) Let me tie you and your husband up

(00:31:46) Cuckholds and cuckqueens…we’re all selfish

(00:33:53) Double barrelled blow jobs

(00:34:43) It was like an orgasercism…a sex story

(00:43:11) Back to double barrelled blow jobs

(00:45:08) Double penetration

(00:46:15) She woke me up…all revved up!

(00:48:10) Do I know the person who was in the ‘P’?

(00:51:14) Air tight…mixed reviews

(00:53:49) Gang bang…emphatic yes!

(00:56:50) It’s all about compersion

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In this honest and insightful episode, your hosts dive deep into two of the most complex emotions in swinging: jealousy and envy. While often confused, these two feelings are very different—and each can surface in powerful and unexpected ways within the lifestyle.

Your hosts share openly about their personal experiences, exploring how these emotions have affected their relationships, and where their individual insecurities have surfaced. They also reflect on how age, experience, and their unique relationship dynamics influence the way they process their feelings. It’s a more serious conversation, grounded in transparency, vulnerability, and real growth. This one promises to inspire deep conversations with your own partner.

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(00:00:00) Defining Jealousy and Envy

(00:02:24) Fear of losing your partner 

(00:04:03) Good luck finding somebody better

(00:05:14) Boundaries were crossed

(00:07:27) Why are we in this lifestyle?

(00:08:20) Articulating your emotions is challenging

(00:09:52) Questioning your own feelings

(00:10:18) Jealousy, envy, insecurities

(00:11:48) You can’t stuff the feelings down

(00:16:15) Is jealousy and envy necessary to experience the thrill?

(00:19:03) In the lifestyle…we flirt back

(00:21:15) He used to be my little secret

(00:23:31) Sharing the intimacy of your spouse and relationship

(00:26:23) Jealousy could creep in

(00:30:16) Is our subconscious controlling our outcome?

(00:32:47) Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke

(00:33:09) Envy can show up in all kinds of unexpected places

(00:36:32) I was envious of his ‘8’ experience because I had a ‘2’

(00:38:49) Being envious of your partner’s personality

(00:40:48) ‘Helping’ doesn’t help

(00:42:37) You don’t do that with me anymore…don’t do it with her

(00:43:59) Feeling envious of other couples

(00:47:25) Jealousy can create emotional and physical pain

(00:49:44) Will jealousy always be a part of the lifestyle?

(00:52:29) Is jealousy a positive or negative thing?

(00:56:45) This is almost the definition OF the lifestyle

(00:57:53) Parting advice

(01:00:04) Listen to episode 11: Vaginas if you need a good laugh

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