Tyrann and J Joe talk on leadership, with 25 years of NFL experience between them, both at a Pro Bowl level, Tyrann also as an All-pro, they impart wisdom on how to lead yourself and younger players, particularly leading by example and practicing at an elite standard. Tyrann expands on the art of leading yourself, the importance of having boundaries on the company you keep, and the mindset and support it took to battle multiple ACL injuries. J Joe dives deeper into learning and competing at high level, the contrast and benefit between different coaching styles he was experienced as a player, and how he trained while balancing work and rest deep into his 16 year NFL career and All time NFL leading 201 passes defended. Hope you enjoy!Disclaimer: This podcast was recorded right before the 2020 season under a different podcast Brian started but never released, "Leaders These Days" so the emphasis of the conversations is on leadership, since then Johnathan Joseph has since retired following the 2020 season, and Tyrann has continued on as a captain and All-Pro Safety for the Kansas City Chiefs.