In this week's episode of Going Thru It, we sit down with our first mother/daughter duo. Rev. Naomi Tutu and her daughter, author and activist Mungi Ngomane. Together, they are a mother and daughter carrying not just their own stories, but the legacy of one of the most influential leaders of our time, Archbishop Desmond Tutu. We talk about what it means to grieve someone who didn’t just belong to you, the South African traditions that shaped how they honor loss, and the wisdom that moves between generations when a family is navigating both public and private grief. This conversation is part legacy, part love letter, and part reminder that across cultures, continents, and generations, grief connects us in the most human way possible. And a very happy belated birthday to Rev. Naomi! Of course you were born on the special day of 8/8....the Lion's Portal! 

Everyday Ubuntu by Mungi Ngomane 

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More about Rev. Nontombi Naomi Tutu

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The Tutu Foundation