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In this episode, guest hosted by Kelly Chase we hear from Darren King [AKA Exoacademian]. Darren is a phenomenal researcher and communicator in the fields ufology and consciousness studies. He is the host of the Point of Convergence podcast, the co-host of the Liminal Phrames podcast, and he is currently serving as the Director of Development and Communications for the John E. Mack Institute. Darren also offers classes, retreats, and coaching on topics related to expanding consciousness through his website Essence of Being. I’ll have all that linked up for you in the episode description if you’d like to check it out.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Darren shares his own journey into the anomalous, insights into the evolving disclosure movement (and the surprising forces driving events), and his thoughts on the importance of recognizing the “point of convergence” between UFOs, NHIs, psi phenomena, and consciousness. In the final portion of the show for paid members, Darren talks about his work at the John E. Mack Institute including the pioneering projects they have in the works, gives insight into Mack’s profound legacy, and discusses why the abduction phenomenon has been conspicuously absent from the disclosure conversation.
Learn more about Darren King:
Kelly Chase is the host of The UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast—available wherever you listen to podcasts.
To support Kelly’s work, please consider becoming a Patron. Patrons get lots of great perks like early and ad-free episodes, access to the private The UFO Rabbit Hole Discord server, and twice-monthly Patron Zoom calls with Kelly Chase. Memberships start at just $5/month. You can join here.
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In this episode, guest hosted by Kelly Chase we hear from Darren King [AKA Exoacademian]. Darren is a phenomenal researcher and communicator in the fields ufology and consciousness studies. He is the host of the Point of Convergence podcast, the co-host of the Liminal Phrames podcast, and he is currently serving as the Director of Development and Communications for the John E. Mack Institute. Darren also offers classes, retreats, and coaching on topics related to expanding consciousness through his website Essence of Being. I’ll have all that linked up for you in the episode description if you’d like to check it out.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Darren shares his own journey into the anomalous, insights into the evolving disclosure movement (and the surprising forces driving events), and his thoughts on the importance of recognizing the “point of convergence” between UFOs, NHIs, psi phenomena, and consciousness. In the final portion of the show for paid members, Darren talks about his work at the John E. Mack Institute including the pioneering projects they have in the works, gives insight into Mack’s profound legacy, and discusses why the abduction phenomenon has been conspicuously absent from the disclosure conversation.
Learn more about Darren King:
Kelly Chase is the host of The UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast—available wherever you listen to podcasts.
To support Kelly’s work, please consider becoming a Patron. Patrons get lots of great perks like early and ad-free episodes, access to the private The UFO Rabbit Hole Discord server, and twice-monthly Patron Zoom calls with Kelly Chase. Memberships start at just $5/month. You can join here.

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