Uli Heckmann joins Jordan all the way from Munich, Germany! We discuss Uli’s history with photography and design, special concept cars, and the challenges of future EV design language. Plus, much, much more!

Find Uli on Instagram @uli.heckmann and www.uliheckmann.com.

Find Out of Spec on all of the places! 

Discord: https://discord.gg/pzBCF2DJ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzAhsatPsUkRsxJfY6zB3A

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-spec-podcast/id1576636119

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