Unchained

Unchained

Download on the App Store

Unchained episodes

  • How Aave Labs and the DAO Should Split Ownership of the Brand - Uneasy Money

    Thank you to our sponsors, Multichain Advisors and Mantle!

    Aave DAO on Christmas Day lost the vote to take control of Aave brand assets, but the fight is likely not over.

    In this Uneasy Money episode Aave Chan Initiative (ACI) founder Marc Zeller takes hosts Kain Warwick and Taylor Monahan inside the fight over one of DeFi's biggest names, teasing a “phase two” of the fight.

    Plus, why is Infinex's ICO getting so much flak and are claims of insider trading on Polymarket misguided?

    Hosts:

    • Kain Warwick
      • Taylor Monahan
      • Guests:

        • Marc Zeller, Founder of the Aave Chan Initiative (ACI)

          Links:

          • Uneasy Money: Why Token Holders Have No Rights & Why Every DAO ‘Has Failed’
          • Aave Labs Proposes Off-Protocol Revenue Sharing With Token Holders
          • Aave’s Rushed Governance Vote Draws Backlash
          • Infinex Changes INX Token Sale Terms After Low Demand
          • MegaETH Just Had Its Public Sale. Can It Succeed in Building a Web2-Like Experience?
          • Polymarket Introduces Taker Fees in 15-Minute Markets
          • Polymarket Resolves Issues After Polygon Network Disruption
          • How to Trade Prediction Markets Without an Opinion on the Event
          • Ethereum’s Vitalik Buterin Says Blockchain Trilemma ‘Has Been Solved’
          • Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

            1 hr 27 min
          • Why 2026 Is 'Too Chaotic' to Make Crypto Predictions

            Thank you to our sponsor, Mantle!

            In this Unchained podcast episode, guests Alex Thorn and Ryan Graham share their 2026 outlook for Bitcoin and the broader crypto market, exploring why the year looks unusually uncertain.

            The conversation also digs into questions around Ethereum’s long-term value, whether killer apps are enough to drive adoption, prediction markets’ push into sports betting, and why the privacy meta could continue in 2026.

            Hosts:

            • Laura Shin
            • Guests:

              • Ryan Graham, Research Analyst at Messari
              • Alex Thorn, Head of Firmwide Research at Galaxy Digital

                Links:

                • DAT Stocks Are on Sale. Are They a Buy? Plus, Why Crypto Is Dead
                • Ethereum’s Vitalik Buterin Says Blockchain Trilemma ‘Has Been Solved’
                • Solana Withstands Week-Long DDoS Attack
                • Solana Mulls Proposal to Lower Inflation Rate
                • Western Union Files ‘WUUSD’ Trademark After Solana Stablecoin Reveal
                • Why the Privacy Coins Mania Is Much More Than Price Action
                • The Chopping Block: Hyperliquid vs. Tarun, ADL Transparency & The Coming Perps Arms Race
                • How to Trade Prediction Markets Without an Opinion on the Event
                • Why Wall Street Banks Need to Launch Their Own Stablecoins
                • How the GENIUS Act Creates a Built-In Advantage for Banks and Deposit Tokens
                • Klarna Launches Stablecoin Built on Stripe’s Tempo Chain
                • How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other
                • Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                  1 hr 12 min
                • The Chopping Block: 2025 Winners & Losers + 2026 Predictions - Ep. 998

                  Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. It's a new year, and that means the crew is back with their annual year-end awards and predictions episode.

                  First up: the 2025 winners and losers. From Trump's meme-coin windfall to Gary Gensler's legacy getting torched, from prediction markets going mainstream to Web3 getting its official eulogy — no one is safe. The team debates the biggest surprises (Circle's shocking IPO run, Ethereum's pivot under new leadership, Zcash's unlikely comeback), the best new mechanisms (ICO 2.0, DATs, federal preemption), and the year's best memes (including the Chopping Block's own tariff factory video).

                  Then comes the flops and comebacks: AI agents that overpromised, Berachain's fall from grace, and Tether somehow winning again. Finally, the crew reviews how badly their 2025 predictions aged — spoiler: not great — and lays out fresh calls for 2026 including AI-powered hacks, stable-coin-funded AI capex, and equity perps taking over DeFi.

                  New year, fresh takes, brutal honesty — let's get into it.


                  Show highlights

                  🔹 Biggest winner debate — Trump's meme-coin empire, prediction markets going mainstream, and M&A consolidation reshaping the industry.

                  🔹 Gary Gensler's legacy destroyed — Haseeb declares his SEC tenure the biggest loser as every initiative got reversed.

                  🔹 Web3 pronounced dead — Tarun writes the epitaph on the "ownership economy" thesis as NFT sentiment hits rock bottom.

                  🔹 Bitcoin as biggest loser? — Robert's controversial pick: BTC underperformed in a year that should have been its best.

                  🔹 Circle IPO shocks — From skeptics to $70B market cap, the stablecoin thesis briefly took over Wall Street.

                  🔹 Ethereum pivot surprise — Vitalik's leadership shake-up and new EF direction restored optimism no one expected.

                  🔹 DATs dominate mechanism talk — Robert calls them highest "absolute value of impact" — amplifying volatility both ways.

                  🔹 AI agents flopped hard — From mania to annoyance, the speculative thesis collapsed and sentiment turned hostile.

                  🔹 2025 predictions reviewed — The team confesses their misses (150K BTC, 5x AI agent caps) with Tom winning at 2/3.

                  🔹 2026 predictions dropped — AI-generated $100M+ hacks, stable-coin-funded AI capex, and equity perps hitting 20% of DeFi volume.

                  Hosts:

                  ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly

                  ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate

                  ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

                  ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly 


                  Timestamps

                  00:00 Intro

                  00:26 Crypto Industry Overview

                  02:39 Biggest Winners of 2025

                  07:32 Biggest Losers of 2025

                  13:29 Biggest Surprises of 2025

                  22:24 Best New Mechanisms of 2025

                  28:49 Best Memes of 2025

                  33:24 Best and Worst Pivots of 2025

                  39:15 Biggest Flops of 2025

                  41:31 Biggest Flop of 2025

                  42:58 Bitcoin's Disappointing Year

                  45:30 Biggest Comeback Stories of 2025

                  49:12 Favorite Guests of 2025

                  52:40 Reflecting on 2025 Predictions

                  56:33 Predictions for 2026


                  Disclosures

                  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                  1 hr 9 min
                • How Maduro's Capture and a 'Pre-War World' Affects Bitcoin: Bits + Bips

                  Thank you to our sponsor, Uniswap!

                  In this episode of Bits + Bips, hosts Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins are joined by macro strategist Peter Tchir to unpack one of the most consequential geopolitical events in years: the U.S. capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

                  The conversation explores why Bitcoin surged past $94,000, what the operation signals about U.S. power and strategy, and how investors should think about energy, supply chains, and national security in a shifting global order.

                  The group also debates whether crypto’s 24/7 markets are revealing a structural weakness in traditional finance, whether Latin America is poised for an investment renaissance, and why “production for security” may replace ESG as the dominant investment framework.

                  Hosts:

                  • Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida
                  • Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting
                  • Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund

                    Guest:

                    • Peter Tchir, Head of Macro Strategy at Academy Securities

                      Links:

                      • Bitcoin Rallies to $93,000 After U.S. Attack on Venezuela
                      • The Venezuelan Oil Narative is PURE THEATRE
                      • Venezuela: The $60B+ Bitcoin "Shadow Reserve"
                      • Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                        1 hr 2 min
                      • The Crypto Market Structure Has Changed and Rising Tides May No Longer Lift All Boats

                        Thank you to our sponsor, Mantle. Sign up for their hackathon here!

                        Crypto markets this year failed to live up to expectations, raising questions about the trajectory for next year. The situation is further complicated by speculation that Bitcoin is about to kick off a multiyear decline in line with the so-called four year cycle.

                        In this Unchained podcast episode, Delphi Digital analysts Jason Pagoulatos and Jordan Yeakley break down the market and applications outlook for next year.

                        They look at whether the four year cycle would hold, what gold's run means for Bitcoin and the conditions that have led to recent market apathy. They also discussed whether the recent resurgence of privacy coins is a fad and who would come out on top in the race to become an “everything app.”

                        Is the four year cycle the result of multiple coincidences? And, is X the dark horse in the everything app meta?

                        Guests:

                        • Jason Pagoulatos, Head of Markets at Delphi Digital

                        • Jordan Yeakley, CFA, Research Analyst at Delphi Digital

                          Previous appearances on Unchained:

                          • What Went Wrong With Pump's ICO and Where It Goes From Here

                          • How Crypto Markets Are Post-Selloff, With Election/Fed Uncertainty

                            Links

                            • Unchained:

                              • Will Bitcoin’s New Phase Change It Forever? And Is the 4-Year Cycle Dead?

                              • The Chopping Block: Hyperliquid vs. Tarun, ADL Transparency & The Coming Perps Arms Race

                              • What Ethereum Will Look Like When It Implements Its New Privacy Focus

                              • Why the Privacy Coins Mania Is Much More Than Price Action

                              • Coinbase Launches Stock Trading and Prediction Markets

                              • Inside Robinhood’s Big Super App Plan: ‘There’s Still a Lot of Work to Be Done’

                              • How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other

                                Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                                1 hr 21 min
                              • The Chopping Block: Aave Civil War + Flow Hack + Coinbase Super-App - Ep. 993

                                Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This episode opens with the Aave DAO civil war: a CoWSwap integration that allegedly routed swap fees to Aave Labs/Avara instead of the DAO, igniting “stealth privatization” claims, a “poison pill” push to seize Aave IP/brand, and a bigger fight over who really owns Aave.com and the protocol’s front door.

                                Next, the crew unpacks the Flow hack (a $3.9M mint exploit) and the wild rollback talk that followed — plus why forks and bridges make rollbacks dangerous, turning bridges into accidental custodians and breaking old security assumptions.

                                Finally, they break down Coinbase’s System Update and the “Everything Exchange” strategy — stocks, tokenization, perps, prediction markets, stablecoin rails — and whether this approach can win against Robinhood. DAO wars, chain chaos, and super-app ambition — let’s get into it.


                                Show highlights

                                🔹 Aave DAO civil war erupts — CoWSwap fees reportedly route to Aave Labs/Avara, not the DAO, fueling “stealth privatization” claims.

                                🔹 “Poison pill” proposal — DAO demands Aave IP/brand and Aave.com control, turning governance into a DevCo vs DAO showdown.

                                🔹 No foundation, messy ownership — Aave’s pre-foundation setup exposes off-chain IP risk, jurisdiction questions, and untested legal theory.

                                🔹 Christmas vote drama — 41% abstain signals a redo; OG/Asia backlash pits “property rights” vs “commons” narratives.

                                🔹 Flow hacked for $3.9M — chain pause + rollback idea sparks outrage (and wouldn’t even stop the attacker).

                                🔹 Rollbacks meet bridges — forked history can wipe innocent bridgers; bridges become custodians when chains reorg or rewind.

                                🔹 Interconnected chains break security — old models crumble, and small chains “die twice” when bridges/oracles unplug.

                                🔹 Coinbase goes “Everything Exchange” — stocks/ETFs, tokenization, perps, prediction markets; can Coinbase beat Robinhood’s funnel?


                                Hosts:

                                ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly

                                ⭐️Robert Leshner [MIA], CEO & Co-founder of Superstate

                                ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

                                ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly 


                                Links:

                                Aave Cowswap Integration- Tokenholder Questions (aave discussion) 

                                https://governance.aave.com/t/aave-cowswap-integration-tokenholder-questions/23530?u=ignas 

                                Aave Will Win: 2026 Master Plan by Stani Kulechov

                                https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2001036446098919461 

                                Timestamps

                                00:00 Intro

                                01:51 Aave Civil War Erupts

                                06:37 CoWSwap Fees Spark Aave IP Debate

                                10:20 Can a DAO Own IP?

                                15:25 Aave’s Pre-Foundation Legal Quirk

                                28:20 Flow Hacked: $3.9M Mint Attack

                                33:50 Small Chains Die When Bridges Leave

                                34:33 App Chains Boom Is Over

                                36:32 The Hidden $20M L1 Tax

                                43:29 Coinbase System Update: Everything Exchange

                                57:43 Coinbase vs Robinhood: Build vs Buy


                                Disclosures

                                Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                                1 hr 2 min
                              • Bits + Bips: 2026 Crypto Predictions: BTC & ETH Hit Record Highs, Stablecoins Go Big

                                Thank you to our sponsor, Mantle!
                                Mantle is launching the Global Hackathon 2025 to accelerate the future of Real-World Assets. With a $150k prize pool, backing from a $4B treasury, and direct access to Bybit’s 7M+ users, this is the ultimate ecosystem for builders.

                                Sign up here!

                                In this year-end Bits + Bips roundtable, hosts Austin Campbell and Chris Perkins are joined by John D’Agostino, Head of Strategy at Coinbase Institutional, for a wide-ranging and often contentious look at what 2026 may hold for crypto.

                                They debate whether a major global brand will launch its own stablecoin, whether altcoins are structurally doomed—or secretly set up for a Wall Street–driven resurgence—and whether a major crypto hack is coming.

                                The conversation also explores how tokens accrue value and whether there will be a new M&A trend that’ll reshape the industry as we know it.

                                Plus: don’t miss what they have to say about NFTs, financial nihilism, and whether we’ll see all-time highs for bitcoin in 2026.


                                Hosts:

                                • Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida

                                • Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and Founder of Zero Knowledge Consulting

                                • Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund

                                  Guest:

                                  • John D'Agostino, Head of Strategy for Coinbase Institutional

                                    Timestamps

                                    🚀 3:38 Why John thinks a global Web2 giant will launch a stablecoin in 2026

                                    💵 8:34 How big the stablecoin market can actually get and where tokenized deposits fit in
                                    🚫 12:18 Whether stablecoins will face outright bans in parts of the world
                                    🔓 16:18 Why a major crypto hack of more than $2 billion in 2026 seems likely
                                    🏛️ 19:56 Why it looks like crypto market structure legislation won’t pass in 2026 — and maybe not after the midterms either
                                    🧠 30:57 John’s three counter-consensus predictions involving quantum tech and AGI
                                    📉 39:25 Whether altcoins are structurally set up to underperform again in 2026
                                    ⚡ 44:02 Whether massive Solana adoption would or wouldn’t translate into token value
                                    🌀 45:00 What “financial nihilism” explains about altcoin behavior
                                    🤝 49:50 Why Chris believes 2026 could become a defining year for crypto M&A
                                    🇺🇸 59:57 How U.S. political shifts now could ripple into the 2028 election cycle
                                    🖼️ 1:02:39 What an NFT comeback would actually look like and why it won’t resemble JPEG mania
                                    💣 1:07:05 Why John isn’t buying the idea that post-10/10 blowups are inevitable
                                    📈 1:08:26 Whether all-time highs in 2026 are still on the table

                                    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                                    1 hr 10 min
                                  • Landmark Regulation, ICOs, Downtober & Privacy: 2025 Crypto Year in Review (Part 2) - Ep. 991

                                    Thank you to our sponsors!

                                    • Uniswap

                                    • Mantle

                                      2025 was a year of mixed outcomes for crypto. The industry got landmark stablecoin regulations in the U.S. but with a major limitation. Bitcoin soared to new all-time highs but failed to surge to heights many expected and is set to end the year flat.

                                      In this final installment of Unchained's year in review show, Ambient Finance founder Doug Colkitt and Gwart take a look back at the passing of the GENIUS Act, Bitcoin's all-time high run and the “10/10” crash.

                                      Plus, did “threadguy's” tax woes trigger Zcash's run? And is Nic Carter overreacting about the quantum computing threat to Bitcoin?

                                      Guests:

                                      • Doug Colkitt, Co-founder of Fogo and Ambient Finance

                                      • Gwart, Host of The Gwart Show

                                        Links:

                                        • Unchained:

                                          • Who Are the Winners and Losers of the New Stablecoin Law in the U.S.?

                                          • Pump.fun Becomes Third Largest ICO, Raises $600M in 12 Minutes

                                          • Stripe and Paradigm Announce New Layer 1 Blockchain ’Tempo’

                                          • Stablecoin Issuers Enter Bidding War to Launch Hyperliquid’s USDH

                                          • Coinbase Buys Cobie’s ‘Up Only’ NFT and Echo in $375 Million Deal

                                          • Bitcoin Hits All-Time High Ahead of $125,500

                                          • Crypto Markets Recover After Record $19 Billion Liquidation

                                          • Why the Black Friday Whale’s $192 Million Crypto Trade Was Legal

                                          • Why the Privacy Coins Mania Is Much More Than Price Action

                                          • How the x402 Standard Is Enabling AI Agents to Pay Each Other

                                          • MegaETH Just Had Its Public Sale. Can It Succeed in Building a Web2-Like Experience?

                                          • Can ‘Choose Rich’ Nick Create the Barstool Sports of Crypto?

                                          • Do Kwon Sentenced to 15 Years in Prison

                                          • Cracking Bitcoin Encryption Is Getting Much Easier, Google Says

                                            Timestamps:

                                            🚀 00:00 Introduction 

                                            🫠 00:53 Why GENIUS Act blocking interest payments is problematic 

                                            🤔 4:31 Did PUMP launch buybacks too soon?

                                            👀 10:56 Is Stripe fully committed to Tempo?

                                            ⁉️ 14:28 Was Hyperliquid's USDH partner “pre-ordained?”

                                            😅 19:38 Is Cobie Coinbase’s best hire yet?

                                            😵‍💫 27:16 Bitcoin's peak in downtober

                                            ❕️ 29:55 What “10/10” says about the crypto industry 

                                            🤣 41:13 Did “threadguy's” tax woes trigger Zcash's run?

                                            👀 47:27 Is the AI agent meta a “charade?”

                                            🤺 50:27 What is fueling the bitter rivalry between Kalshi and Polymarket

                                            🤔 56:50 Did “ICOBeast” deserve to lose his MegaETH allocation?

                                            💥 1:00:40 Is “Choose Rich” Nick now mainstream?

                                            🫣 1:02:55 Was Do Kwon's 15 year sentence excessive?

                                            🧐 1:08:54 Is Nic Carter overreacting about the quantum computing threat to Bitcoin?

                                            🔮 1:13:42 Doug and Gwart lock in their 2026 predictions


                                            Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                                            1 hr 19 min
                                          • 2025 Crypto Year in Review, Part 1: Shit Talking Edition - Ep. 990

                                            Crypto natives entered 2025 with many expectations, but bingo cards likely did not include world leaders launching memecoins.

                                            In this first installment of a two part Unchained Special, Ambient Finance founder Doug Colkitt and “Gwart” join to offer a whimsical take on some of the years major happenings as it pertains to crypto.

                                            How did an erstwhile dropshipper get in bed with world leaders and convince them to launch memecoins? And did Tom Lee's “good hair” save ETH?

                                            Thank you to our sponsor, Walrus! http://walrus.xyz/

                                            Guests:

                                            • Doug Colkitt, Co-founder of Fogo and Ambient Finance

                                            • Gwart, Host of The Gwart Show

                                              Links:

                                              • Unchained:

                                                • Why Lyn Alden Isn’t a Fan of Trump’s Memecoins, but Neutral on a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve

                                                • The Chopping Block: Trump’s Crypto Shake-Up, Solana’s Big Moment, that Changes Everything

                                                • Why Would Argentine President Javier Milei Protect Kelsier’s Hayden Davis?

                                                • How the $1.5 Billion Bybit Hack Could Have Been Prevented

                                                • Which Crypto Assets Belong in a Reserve? This VC Says Not XRP and ADA

                                                • White House Crypto Summit: Two Attendees Share Why It Matters

                                                • Arthur Hayes and Hanson Birringer on Hyperliquid’s Success (And What Could Stop It)

                                                • Hyperliquid Trader Makes $87M in 70 Days, Loses It In Five

                                                • The Chopping Block: Tom Lee the New Saylor? DAT Consolidation, Token Wrappers Under Fire

                                                • Circle, Issuer of the $61.5 Billion USDC, Raises $1.1 Billion in Landmark IPO

                                                • Why Arbitrum Won Over Robinhood + A $59 Million Polymarket Controversy

                                                • DAT Stocks Are on Sale. Are They a Buy? Plus, Why Crypto Is Dead

                                                  Timestamps:

                                                  🚀 00:00 Introduction 

                                                  😵 1:20 How Trump and Melania surprised the crypto community with Solana memecoins

                                                  😅 4:46 How Hayden Davis went from dropshipping to launching coins with world leaders

                                                  🫠 8:39 Could a test transaction have saved Bybit from the largest heist of all time?

                                                  🫡 13:34 How Ripple lobbyists reportedly got Trump to shout out an XRP reserve

                                                  🤣 17:55 Was the White House Crypto Summit hijacked by FIFA?

                                                  🤺 20:20 Hyperliquid's Run and the CZ v. Jeff Memes

                                                  😅 26:48 Who is James Wynn, really?

                                                  😆 30:36 What sparked ETH's comeback? Tom Lee's good hair or EF reforms?

                                                  📈 35:51 How Circle's IPO run blindsided Arthur Hayes

                                                  🎇 38:48 Robinhood's grand on-chain debut

                                                  🫠 43:58 Still early or DOA? Base's hit and miss campaigns

                                                  🤔 54:23 How does the DAT mania end?


                                                  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                                                  1 hr 5 min
                                                • DEX in the City: How Even TradFi Wants to Pass the Crypto Market Structure Bill - Ep. 989

                                                  In this Christmas Eve episode of DEX in the City, hosts Jessi Brooks, Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, and Vy Le break down a pivotal moment for crypto: the industry is no longer operating as a self-contained, oppositional ecosystem. It’s converging with traditional finance. And the cool thing? Washington is responding.

                                                  The trio unpacks the latest on the crypto market structure bill, what it means that TradFi players are actively supporting legislation, how compliance tools like KYC became unavoidable, and why crypto may be going through an identity crisis. 

                                                  They also delve into why Democratic engagement is crucial to getting a bill across the finish line, and why January’s confirmed markup could be a turning point.

                                                  Hosts:

                                                  • Jessi Brooks, General Counsel at Ribbit Capital

                                                  • Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos, General Counsel at StarkWare

                                                  • TuongVy Le, General Counsel at Veda


                                                    Timestamps:

                                                    🎬 0:00 Intro

                                                    🎄 2:09 Whether crypto’s convergence with TradFi is finally changing how policymakers treat the industry

                                                    🧬 13:54 What “crypto-native hybrids” are and why they’re suddenly everywhere

                                                    🔐 15:23 How KYC and compliance tools went from optional to unavoidable in crypto’s tech stack

                                                    🪞 18:24 Why Vy says crypto is in the middle of a real identity crisis

                                                    📅 21:12 Why a confirmed January markup is a much bigger deal than it sounds

                                                    ⚔️ 24:00 How the DeFi fight inside the bill is shaping up and why TradFi is now showing up loudly

                                                    🏛️ 31:02 What Democrats are zeroing in on to actually get this bill across the finish line

                                                    🔄 35:02 Whether the revolving door between government and crypto is healthy or a red flag

                                                    ✨ 45:49 Good news and end-of-year thoughts

                                                    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

                                                    51 min

                                                  About Unchained

                                                  From the publisher's feed

                                                  Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura…