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  • Why SBF's Testimony So Far Has Likely Already Doomed Him - Ep. 563

    Sam Enzer, a partner at the law firm Cahill Gordon & Reindel, told Laura that former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried did about as well as he could in his testimony Friday but that he was unlikely “to withstand the scrutiny” of what prosecutors have already said will be a robust cross-examination when he takes the stand Monday. 

    Enzer noted that Bankman-Fried’s attempts to explain why he thought his trading shop, Alameda Research, could borrow billions in dollars of FTX customer assets “defies common sense,” and that the company’s own terms of agreement or any other communications offered no justification for this belief. A Thursday hearing without the jury present, in which the defense gave a preview of some arguments it wanted to make, ended up giving the government answers from SBF that it can now use against him. Enzer also said that Bankman-Fried’s contention that his biggest mistake – a failure to implement proper risk management – did not constitute criminal fraud, did not address the core of the government’s case; namely, that he lied about how FTX was handling customer deposits.

    Show highlights:
    • why Enzer thinks Sam Bankman-Fried’s testimony is unlikely to sway jury sentiment or withstand cross-examination
    • why the evidentiary hearing in which SBF testified without a jury may hurt his cause
    • the purpose of the evidentiary hearing
    • how Judge Lewis Kaplan hinted at what he thought about SBF’s testimony
    • how Bankman-Fried is likely to fare against prosecutor Danielle Sassoon in what she has promised will be a robust cross-examination
    • how the defense tried to recast SBF’s image by humanizing him
    • why the defense now has the strongest grounds for an appeal than it previously did 
    • what the jury is likely to make of SBF’s contention that he was in the dark about core allegations 
    • why the prosecution said it will call rebuttal witnesses
    • what a charge conference is and why that will take place after SBF testifies
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      • LayerZero
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      • Guest:
        Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & ReindelLinks
        • Previous coverage by Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried:
        • How Heated Sidebars During the SBF Trial Could Impact the Jury’s Decision
        • SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family
        • SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’
        • SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact
        • SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges
        • Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here's Everything That Happened So Far
        • SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison?
        • SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life'
        • SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness?
        • SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges 
        • SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender
        • SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony
        • SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole
        • SBF Trial, Day 12: Former FTX General Counsel Speaks Out Against SBF
        • SBF Trial, Day 13: Before Judge, Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Gives Few Straight Answers
        • SBF Trial, Day 14: Sam Bankman-Fried Casts Blame on Others for Key Decisions at FTX
        • Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors?
        • Good Morning America: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried on crypto giant's collapse: 'A lot of people got hurt. And that's on me'
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          53 min
        • SBF Trial, Day 14: Sam Bankman-Fried Casts Blame on Others for Key Decisions at FTX

          Sam Bankman-Fried took the stand before a jury for the first time in his criminal trial for allegedly defrauding FTX customers. The exchange’s co-founder and former CEO tried to recast the image that prosecutors spent nearly three weeks shaping of an executive who defrauded customers and dismissed the concerns of the three members of his inner circle, all of whom named him as their co-conspirator earlier in the trial.  


          Responding to his defense team’s gentle questioning, SBF spent large parts of his testimony, offering alternative, often long-winded explanations for actions and behavior that prosecutors allege demonstrated intent to evade legal and regulatory scrutiny of the business he created. He admitted to making mistakes, which supported his defense team’s “failed entrepreneur” strategy, and none more significant than a failure to create a dedicated risk management team. 


          Bankman-Fried denied committing any crimes or attempting to defraud anyone and said that he believed funds used for sponsorships, real estate purchases, political donations, venture investments and payments to lenders did not come from customer funds. At times, he attempted to shift blame for certain decisions on the inner circle, who he insisted had the authority to take action “on behalf of the company without consulting” him. 


          SBF described former CEO of Alameda Research, Caroline Ellison, his on-and-off girlfriend, as a good trader and researcher who did not act on his stated concerns about the FTX trading arm’s exposure to market risk and importance of hedging. Ellison, who agreed to a plea deal with prosecutors, testified early in the trial that Bankman-Fried had asked her to manipulate Alameda balance sheets at Bankman-Fried’s direction to make them seem less risky to lenders and that Alameda had used FTX customer funds for its own investments. Prosecutors have promised a robust cross-examination next week. Whether they or Bankman-Fried’s version of events is more persuasive for jurors remains uncertain. 



          Catch up on Unchained’s previous coverage: 
          • SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family
          • SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’
          • SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact
          • SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges
          • SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison?
          • SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life'
          • SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness?
          • SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges
          • SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender
          • SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony
          • SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole
          • SBF Trial, Day 12: Former FTX General Counsel Speaks Out Against SBF
          • SBF Trial, Day 13: Before Judge, Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Gives Few Straight Answers
          • Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors?
          • Why These Lawyers Say It's Over for SBF-But His Only Hail Mary Is to Testify
          • Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out
          • SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case
          • The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect
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            13 min
          • How Much Money Will Flow Into Bitcoin ETFs? Here’s One Projection - Ep. 562

            In a recent report, Alex Thorn, head of research at Galaxy, predicted that inflows to spot bitcoin ETFs would rise above $14 billion in the first year following the potential approval by the Securities and Exchange Commission of multiple applications the agency is considering. Thorn called the availability of this product significant because it will give financial advisors and wealth managers accessibility to digital assets in a way that will be acceptable to clients seeking exposure to crypto. He also believes approval of a spot BTC ETF could occur this year before the holidays, and draws comparisons between bitcoin and gold as investment products. 

            Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.

            Show highlights:

            • why Alex believes this is a significant moment for Bitcoin
            • how, in Bitcoin, retail had access to this asset before institutions
            • why Alex expects the spot Bitcoin ETF approved this year
            • what the capital inflows Galaxy expects to be in the first years and how they arrived at those numbers 
            • whether the addressable market will increase significantly for Bitcoin
            • what will be the average percentage of assets adding BTC exposure
            • why Alex compares Bitcoin to gold, and what he learned after comparing both types of assets
            • how much the price of Bitcoin will increase after the first year of the ETF approval, according to Galaxy's report
            • how the several spot Bitcoin ETFs will be differentiated 
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              • Guest
                Alex Thorn, head of firmwide research at GalaxyLinks
                • Previous coverage of Unchained on spot Bitcoin ETFs:
                • Why a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Probably Launch No Later Than January 10
                • Why It Looks Like BlackRock Could Win America’s First Spot Bitcoin ETF
                • The Chopping Block: Are We Back? The 'Low IQ' Response to the Potential Spot Bitcoin ETF
                • Unchained: 
                • Bitcoin Soars Past $35,000 Amid Spot ETF Optimism
                • Bitcoin ETFs Explained: What Are They & How Do They Work?
                • CoinDesk: BlackRock Bitcoin ETF in August Got on DTCC Site That Just Belatedly Moved Markets
                • 12 spot bitcoin ETFs in consideration by the SEC
                • Galaxy: Sizing the Market for a Bitcoin ETF
                • Alex’s thread drawing out highlights from the report
                • Alex’s thread on the potential for a “gamma squeeze”
                • CoinShares Digital Asset Funds Flow Weekly
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                  43 min
                • SBF Trial, Day 13: Before Judge, Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Gives Few Straight Answers

                  In a courtroom drama minus the jury, Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF) took the stand for what can be best described as a “test run.” The hearing aimed to help the judge decide what evidence will be admissible in the actual trial. SBF's performance under Assistant U.S. Attorney Danielle Sassoon's questioning was less than stellar. His verbose answers and frequent apologies contrasted sharply with Sassoon's pointed questions, at times making him appear evasive. The hearing also touched on SBF's use of encrypted messaging app Signal and his company's data retention policy.

                  Catch up on Unchained’s previous coverage: 
                  • SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family
                  • SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’
                  • SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact
                  • SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges
                  • SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison?
                  • SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life'
                  • SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness?
                  • SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges
                  • SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender
                  • SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony
                  • SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole
                  • SBF Trial, Day 12: Former FTX General Counsel Speaks Out Against SBF
                  • Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors?
                  • Why These Lawyers Say It's Over for SBF-But His Only Hail Mary Is to Testify
                  • Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out
                  • SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case
                  • The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect
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                    9 min
                  • The Chopping Block: Are We Back? The 'Low IQ' Response to the Potential Spot Bitcoin ETF - Ep. 561

                    Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, the four discuss Bitcoin’s price surge over the past week amid growing optimism that a spot BTC exchange traded fund would win regulatory approval, an erroneous Wall Street Journal story about crypto funding to the terrorist group Hamas and AI and crypto illiteracy among leading U.S. lawmakers. 


                    Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.


                    Show highlights: 

                    • the reasons why the price of Bitcoin has gone up so much in the last week
                    • whether Bitcoin is decoupling from the traditional stock and equity markets 
                    • why Robert is convinced that Bitcoin pumped this much due to the BlackRock ETF news
                    • what an ETF is and why it could be a big deal for Bitcoin
                    • whether the analogy to the gold ETFs works for Bitcoin
                    • how an inaccurate report from the Wall Street Journal about Hamas' usage of crypto sparked so much criticism within the crypto community
                    • why that crypto is not a good venue for illicit financing
                    • how the US political class is 'illiterate' about AI and crypto, according to Tarun
                    • Hosts
                      • Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly 
                      • Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
                      • Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly 
                      • Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures


                        DisclosuresLinks

                        Recent coverage of Unchained on spot Bitcoin ETFs:

                        • Why a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Probably Launch No Later Than January 10
                        • Why It Looks Like BlackRock Could Win America’s First Spot Bitcoin ETF
                        • Bitcoin ETFs

                          • Unchained: 
                          • Bitcoin Soars Past $35,000 Amid Spot ETF Optimism
                          • Bitcoin ETFs Explained: What Are They & How Do They Work?
                          • South China Morning Post: China’s stock market fund outflows add to biggest capital flight since 2016: Goldman
                          • Regulation:

                            • Reuters: US lawmakers urge White House crack down on Hamas use of crypto after Israel attack
                            • Forbes: Elizabeth Warren Is Building An ‘Anti-Crypto Army’—Feeding Serious U.S. Bitcoin Ban Warnings
                            • WSJ: Hamas Militants Behind Israel Attack Raised Millions in Crypto
                            • Cryptoslate: Crypto community accuses WSJ of exaggerating Hamas crypto funding by 99%
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                              36 min
                            • Why a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Probably Launch No Later Than January 10 - Ep. 560

                              James Seyffart, market analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, and Matt Hougan, chief investment officer at Bitwise Asset Management, feel quite certain a spot Bitcoin ETF will launch in the next few months. 

                              First, the SEC decided not to appeal a court’s rejection of Grayscale’s application to convert its bitcoin trust to a spot ETF. Second, there’s been a change in the way the SEC has been treating the many other spot Bitcoin ETF applications—requesting miniscule tweaks in disclosure language. And even though other legal hiccups are occurring—the NY Attorney General’s lawsuit against Grayscale parent company, DCG, the SEC’s potentially renewed vigor in the Ripple case, and Cointelegraph’s incorrect tweet about a bitcoin ETF—the SEC needs a PR win right now. According to them, this means good things not just for spot Bitcoin ETFs but also, shortly thereafter, Ethereum ETFs. 

                              Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.

                              Show highlights:
                              • why the SEC did not appeal a decision in the Grayscale case
                              • whether the NYAG lawsuit against DGC, the parent company of Grayscale, will affect the prospects for GBTC being converted into an ETF
                              • how likely it is that GBTC will be converted into an ETF and what needs to happen for that to occur
                              • why the SEC probably wants Grayscale to "completely refile," according to James
                              • why the recent changes in the ETF applications are "relatively modest," according to Matt
                              • whether the incorrect Cointelegraph tweet about a spot bitcoin ETF will be used by the SEC to bolster its market manipulation argument
                              • an overview of the deadlines of the different applications
                              • what happened at the launch of Ethereum futures ETFs and how it was different from the launch of Bitcoin futures ETFs
                              • whether the approval of a spot Bitcoin ETF will pave the way for a spot ether ETF
                              • what the impact is of all the negative PR for the SEC and Chair Gary Gensler after losing many cases
                              • what the differences between the various ETFs are and how they will compete in the market
                              • Lightning round questions: volumes after launch, inflows in the first year, projections for BTC price

                              • Thank you to our sponsors!
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                                • LayerZero
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                                • Guests:
                                  • James Seyffart, Research analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
                                  • Previous appearance on Unchained: Why It Looks Like BlackRock Could Win America’s First Spot Bitcoin ETF
                                  • Matthew Hougan, CIO of Bitwise
                                  • Previous appearances on Unchained: 
                                  • The 2 Types of Investors Driving Interest in Crypto
                                  • Bitwise’s Latest Plans to Get a Bitcoin ETF Approved

                                  • Links

                                    ETFs:

                                    Previous coverage of Unchained on ETFs:
                                    • Does Grayscale’s Win Against the SEC Mean a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Be Approved?
                                    • Grayscale v. SEC: Who Won This Week’s Hearing?
                                    • Why Grayscale Is Suing the SEC Over Its Denial of a Bitcoin ETF
                                    • $5 Billion in AUM: Why Growth at Grayscale Exploded in the Last Quarter
                                    • Bitwise’s Latest Plans to Get a Bitcoin ETF Approved
                                    • DCG’s Dilemma: Should It Sell Its GBTC Holdings to Repay Gemini?
                                    • Unchained: 
                                    • Bitcoin Surges to $30K After False Spot ETF Approval Tweet
                                    • Ethereum Futures ETFs See ‘Average’ First Day Trading Volumes
                                    • Cointelegraph: Clarification on sharing false spot Bitcoin ETF news
                                    • Redeem GBTC 🌽 Campaign
                                    • Ripple:

                                      SEC Drops Charges Against Ripple CEO and Chairman - Unchained Crypto

                                      Market manipulation

                                      • CNET: 23-year-old arrested in Emulex hoax
                                      • SEC Charges Avraham Eisenberg with Manipulating Mango Markets’ “Governance Token” to Steal $116 Million of Crypto Assets
                                      • NYAG lawsuit:

                                        • NY Attorney General Sues Crypto Firms Gemini, Genesis, and DCG for Over $1 Billion Fraud

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                                        1 hr 17 min
                                      • The Chopping Block: A Rough Week 3 for SBF, DCG Troubles, Fees at Uniswap - Ep. 559

                                        Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news. This week, the four discuss – and disagree about – Uniswap’s new fees, SBF trial week 3, and DCG potentially being taken out by the NY Attorney General. 


                                        Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.


                                        Show highlights: 

                                        • What happened recently on the criminal trial against Sam Bankman-Fried, including testimonies from Caroline Ellison, Nishad Singh
                                        • why Robert doesn't like the cartoonist and how Tarun is friends with a stenographer 
                                        • how Nishad Singh confirmed what everyone suspected about the cross-collateral risk engine at FTX
                                        • why Haseeb believes that the NYAG's lawsuit against DCG, Genesis, and Gemini is "brutal"
                                        • how DCG resembles the Roman Empire, according to Haseeb
                                        • what Robert thinks about the introduction of the Uniswap Labs new fees, considering he was in a similar situation with Compound Labs'
                                        • how can companies that build open-source protocols monetize their efforts
                                        • whether the implementation of the fees will reduce the total volume for Uniswap

                                        • Hosts
                                          • Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly 
                                          • Robert Leshner, founder of Compound
                                          • Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly 
                                          • Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures


                                            DisclosuresLinks

                                            Previous coverage by Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried:

                                            • How Heated Sidebars During the SBF Trial Could Impact the Jury’s Decision
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges
                                            • Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here's Everything That Happened So Far
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison?
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life'
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness?
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges 
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony
                                            • SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole

                                            • Uniswap:

                                              • Unchained: Uniswap Labs to Charge 0.15% Fee on Certain Tokens

                                              NYAG lawsuit: 

                                              • Unchained: NY Attorney General Sues Crypto Firms Gemini, Genesis, and DCG for Over $1 Billion Fraud

                                              Reddit:

                                              • Unchained: Reddit to Discontinue Community Points Citing Scalability and Regulatory Issues, Sparking Community Backlash

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                                              53 min
                                            • Another Bad Week for Sam Bankman-Fried in His Criminal Trial - Ep. 558

                                              Sam Enzer, a partner at the law firm Cahill Gordon & Reindel, told Laura that compelling evidence from Sam Bankman-Fried’s inner circle had increased the difficulty for the fallen FTX CEO to convince a jury of his innocence. Former FTX head engineer Nishad Singh said that he became suicidal after understanding the full magnitude of FTX’s misuse of customer funds, while ex-chief legal counsel Can Sun helped show how SBF allegedly lied to lawyers. 


                                              Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.

                                              Show highlights:

                                              • Sam (Enzer’s) thoughts on how the trial is going for the defense 
                                              • what Nishad Singh's emotional testimony revealed about SBF
                                              • how Singh felt "betrayed" by Bankman-Fried, who may have been a big brother figure to him
                                              • why the defense went much harder after Singh in its defense than it did the other members of the inner circle
                                              • whether the jury felt empathy with Singh about his suicidal feelings 
                                              • what the rationale was behind the order of the witnesses
                                              • why Sam believes that the accounting professor Peter Easton's testimony was "damning" for the defense 
                                              • whether the testimony of former FTX general counsel proved that SBF lied to his own lawyers
                                              • why the communications between SBF and his lawyer, which are generally privileged, were divulged in court
                                              • why Sam believes that it's likely that SBF will testify, although he would advise him not to
                                              • Thank you to our sponsors!
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                                                • Hedera
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                                                • Guest
                                                  • Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel.
                                                  • Previous appearances on Unchained: 
                                                  • Why These Lawyers Say It's Over for SBF-But His Only Hail Mary Is to Testify
                                                  • SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case
                                                  • SBF’s Lawyers Could Be Annoying the Judge. How Might That Impact the Trial?
                                                  • Links
                                                    • Previous coverage by Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried:
                                                    • How Heated Sidebars During the SBF Trial Could Impact the Jury’s Decision
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges
                                                    • Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here's Everything That Happened So Far
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison?
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life'
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness?
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges 
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole
                                                    • Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors?
                                                    • Good Morning America: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried on crypto giant's collapse: 'A lot of people got hurt. And that's on me'
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                                                      50 min
                                                    • SBF Trial, Day 12: Former FTX General Counsel Speaks Out Against SBF

                                                      On the 12th day of the SBF Trial, former FTX General Counsel Can Sun testified about a $7 billion deficit in customer funds. Sun, who was responsible for crafting FTX's terms of service, expressed shock at the deficit and revealed that Sam Bankman-Fried had asked him for legal justifications. Sun also mentioned that Nishad Singh, a key witness and former head of engineering at FTX, looked emotionally drained days before the company's collapse.

                                                      Sun's testimony took a dramatic turn during a meeting with Bankman-Fried and others, where it was confirmed that FTX lacked sufficient funds to cover customer withdrawals. This meeting solidified Sun's suspicions that Alameda Research had misappropriated FTX customer deposits. 

                                                      The day concluded with Robert Boroujerdi of Third Point stating that Bankman-Fried had omitted significant details that would have altered the firm’s decision to invest $60 million in the now failed crypto exchange. That investment is now worth zero. The trial will resume in a week, adding more suspense to this unfolding legal drama.


                                                      Catch up on Unchained’s previous coverage: 
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison?
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life'
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness?
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole
                                                      • Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors?
                                                      • Why These Lawyers Say It's Over for SBF-But His Only Hail Mary Is to Testify
                                                      • Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out
                                                      • SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case
                                                      • The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect
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                                                        9 min
                                                      • SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole

                                                        The courtroom was abuzz on Wednesday as financial and technical experts took the stand in the ongoing criminal trial against Sam Bankman-Fried. Accounting professor Peter Easton, a standout witness, presented a detailed analysis showing that Alameda had spent customer funds on VC investments, real estate, and political and charitable donations. Easton, who had previously worked on high-profile cases like Enron and Worldcom, said that by the end, the gap between what FTX owed to customers and what it had on hand was $8.8 billion.

                                                        The defense, led by attorney David Lisner, attempted to challenge Easton's methods. Lisner questioned the accounting of the fiat@ftx internal account, which tracks customer deposits. Easton admitted to lumping amounts owed to customers from FTX’s bank accounts with what was owed to customers from Alameda's bank accounts, giving the defense an opportunity to question his accuracy.

                                                        The day also saw other witnesses, including a former FTX lobbyist and a Google employee, both of whose relevance was questioned by Judge Kaplan. The judge criticized the prosecution for wasting time with witnesses who seemed to offer little to the case.

                                                        Catch up on Unchained’s previous coverage: 
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison?
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life'
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness?
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender
                                                        • SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony
                                                        • Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors?
                                                        • Why These Lawyers Say It's Over for SBF-But His Only Hail Mary Is to Testify
                                                        • Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out
                                                        • SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case
                                                        • The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect
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