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This is one of the most listened to, and most reacted to episodes so far.

Curt and I sat down about a week after some significant issues were exposed in one of our probationary firefighters and shared some general and specific thoughts on the matter.

These conversations are not the most fun thing ever.  And they are tough to handle and manage from both sides.  But they are much needed and hopefully the result is a more capable and durable workforce.

Thank you for listening and being part of the 4th Shift/Tailboard Talk universe in 2022 and here's to plenty more in '23.

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