Under The Gloss with Phoebe Burgess

Charlotte Ree thought she had life all figured out. She met her ex-husband when she was 19, was married at 27 and had a five-year plan in place that filled her up. Until it didn't, and at 29 she and her husband separated. Two days later, Sydney entered its first COVID-19 lockdown, and Charlotte was forced to reckon with what it meant to be alone. 

On today's episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and Charlotte dive into the harsh reality of heartbreak, and how to put yourself back together again and come out the other side. There are tears, there’s laughter – and, of course, there’s cake

You can read the Vogue essay that inspired Heartbake here. 

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Teresa Palmer may be an actress who has starred in more than 30 films as well as her new Disney+ miniseries The Clearing, but she’s first and foremost a devoted mum to her four beautiful children and a 'bonus kid' from her husband's previous relationship. 

On today's episode of Under The Gloss, Teresa is open and honest about how her worlds blur together; she talks about the reality of breastfeeding solidly for nearly 10 years, dives into the terrifying world of cults, and shares the secret to the perfect baby name. 

You can read more about Teresa Palmer in her latest interview with The Australian, available here. 

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Prolific in every sense of the word, Pallavi Sharda has an impressive resume; in just the past year she's starred in Netflix hit Wedding Season and award-winning Australian drama The Twelve. And outside of Australia, she's an even bigger star - Pallavi started her career in India as a Bollywood actress. 

On today’s episode, Pallavi joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio for an incredibly nuanced conversation about why she decided to head to India while in the midst of her law degree, how she brings cultural context to the parts she plays on screen, and why longing is synonymous with children of diaspora. 

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Tanya Plibersek has been in the public eye for almost 30 years – but you’ve never heard her like this. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Tanya swaps politics for the Vogue studio to chat to Phoebe about her childhood, her surprise pregnancy and how she balances parliament with parenting. She also opens up about the real reason why she turned down her party’s top job in 2019.

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Jacinta Tynan became a single mother almost overnight. She left behind the idea of a nuclear family to live life on her own terms – and she’s not alone. Single parent families are the fastest growing family type in Australia. In part two of this special chat, Jacinta joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to chat about losing friends during separation (and finding them), why invitations dry up if you’re single and the secret to juggling life when you’re a solo parent. 

Jacinta Tynan is a journalist and author of The Single Mother’s Social Club.

Missed the first part of this chat with Jacinta? Listen to part one here. 

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Jacinta Tynan became a single mother almost overnight. She left behind the idea of a nuclear family to live life on her own terms – and she’s not alone. Single parent families are the fastest growing family type in Australia.In part one of this two-part chat, Jacinta joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to share what it’s like to raise children on your own, how it feels to be the only adult in the house, and why dating is the last thing on your mind. This isn’t just for single mums – it’s for anyone who loves a single mum.

Jacinta Tynan is a journalist and author of The Single Mother’s Social Club.

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Two years ago, Bianca Spender hadn’t really experienced loss. But in the space of 18 months, the fashion designer lost her beloved mum, Carla Zampatti, and not long after, she lost her father. On today’s episode, Bianca joins Phoebe – after a quick wardrobe change – to chat about overcoming grief, childhood memories of the Carla Zampatti atelier, why she went to France to prove herself in the fashion world, how she’s forging her own legacy – and why she gardens in a silk nightie. 

Read all about Bianca and her family legacy in Vogue’s Family issue, on sale now. 

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How you feel about beauty can have just as much of an impact on your mind and it does your face. Vogue Digital Head of Brand Ana Eksouzian-Cavadas joins Phoebe in this special bonus episode to chat about feeling comfortable and beautiful in your own skin, finding your confidence and why you shouldn’t follow trends when it comes to “tweakments”.

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Have you ever thought about a sexless life? Nikki Gemmell has. She’s happily married with four kids – and for now, she’s over sex. The award winning author and columnist for The Australian doesn’t remember the last time she had sex. In today’s episode of Under The Gloss, Nikki joins Phoebe to chat first times, birth stories, embracing a post-sex life, what menopause is all about and the freedom of living together apart. 

Read Nikki Gemmell’s columns here.

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Camilla and Marc aren’t just the fashion duo behind their namesake brand –they’re on a mission to end ovarian cancer. It’s a disease that kills about 1,042 Australian women every year – including their beloved mum. In today’s episode, Camilla and Marc join Phoebe in the Vogue studio to chat about their idyllic childhood, the devastating moment they realised their mum was ill, the ritual of sitting shiva, and how their campaign ‘Ovaries. Talk About Them’ is helping to fund the first early detection test.

Find out more information about the Ovaries. Talk About Them campaign here.

Help make an early detection test a reality within the next few years here.

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