In the latest installment of Propel, our podcast series on self-driving vehicles, New York partner Paul Keller interviews Lando Juarez, Uber’s Head of Legal for Autonomous Mobility and Delivery, about Uber’s historical and current efforts to leverage its demand aggregation platform technology with AV developers and fleet owners.

Listen to Paul and Lando as they discuss Uber’s recent sale of Uber Advanced Technologies Group to Aurora, Uber’s on-going involvement in the AV space post-sale and the overall state of AV development, which has been called the “moonshot of this generation.”