Last time we were left divided on how we felt about Now and Then, Here and There. Well now on the other side of this show we've found unity. Unfortunately we've unified around how awful this show turned out to be. What we thought might turn out to be a show about the refusal of fascist ideology and the fight for a better future somehow managed to backpedal into pro-life conservative nonsense in it's second half. Despite the show being appalling and bad, we manage to have a pretty good time ripping it apart and getting angry over all the ways in which the show manages to fall apart at the end. Content warnings for this episode's discussion include death, violence against children, abuse, torture, dehydration and starvation, war, war crimes, child soldiers, rape and sexual assault, attempted forced abortion, and shitty pro-life garbage.