Tom Horvath spoke with Richard Zwicky discussed various aspects of addiction and recovery. Tom clarified common misunderstandings about addiction, emphasizing the importance of long-term meaning and purpose over short-term gratification, and discussed strategies for sustaining change, including letting go of self-blame and focusing on small, back-and-forth steps.

They also explored the potential role of psychedelics in treatment under medical supervision, the supportive role of families using approaches like CRAFT, and how individuals can choose between mutual help groups like Smart Recovery and 12-step programs based on personal comfort. Tom Horvath also shared contact information for listeners interested in learning more about their work.