In this episode of The Leader's Journey Podcast, Trisha Taylor and Michael DeRuyter explore empathy as a guiding principle for leaders. Is empathy always a strength, or can it sometimes get in the way? Through stories, humor, and systems thinking, they unpack what empathy really is, why it is often misunderstood, and how mature empathy helps us stay grounded, connected, and responsible. This conversation invites leaders to move beyond reactive compassion toward empathy that sustains courage, clarity, and truth.

Conversation Overview

• Redefining Empathy
• Empathy, Sympathy, and Emotional Fusion
• The Role of Perspective and Curiosity
• Empathy and Systems Thinking
• Boundaries, Responsibility, and Courage

Resources Mentioned

• A Failure of Nerve by Edwin H. Friedman
• Dare to Lead by Brené Brown
• Empathy Zoom Dialogue – October 21