Hal Hershfield is a leading expert on the psychology of making decisions, but that doesn’t mean that he always makes the right decisions about money, which should be reassuring for us all to hear. A Professor of Marketing, Behavioral Decision Making, and Psychology at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, Hal joins Carl to discuss some of his earliest memories about money (he looked it up in the ‘M’ book of his Encyclopedia), the importance of aligning capital with what's important in our lives, and how we rationalize our decisions around money with our emotions way more than we should.
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Understanding Our Money Decisions With UCLA Professor Hal Hershfield

Talking about money is hard. All over the world, people are taught never to talk about money, politics, sex or religion in polite company. On 50 Fires: A Podcast About Money and Meaning from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines, host and financial conversationalist Carl Richards will remove money from that list by having frank, funny, and often difficult conversations about money - the kind we were all told not to have! - with guests from all walks of life. In each episode, Carl will invite a new guest to answer the question “What does money mean to you?” Their answers will reveal much more than their attitudes about money, spanning revelations about identity, community, faith, family and the true meaning of wealth.
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50 Fires is taking a very short break to gear up for Season 2 with even more meaningful conversations about money. In this quick episode, Carl invites you to kindle your own enlightening discussions around money with a spouse, family member, or dear friend, and offers 5 simple, yet impactful steps to start these conversations: 

Look for time and space for the conversation 

Pick a simple question to get started like, “What’s your earliest memory of money?”

Go a little deeper 

Express gratitude for the conversation 

Share your stories with Carl - hello@behaviorgap.com


We’d love to hear how your conversations go. Send an email to hello@behaviorgap.com with an audio file or a note about how it went. Or even send your own answer to the following question: What’s your earliest memory of money? Back soon with more stories about money and meaning on Season 2 of 50 Fires. ﻿
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An Invitation From Carl: Share Your Own Conversations About Money

Carl welcomes journalist, writer, surfer, climber, father and husband Daniel Duane to reflect on a life and career guided by passionate pursuits and what happens when that career suddenly seems unviable. The conversation raises questions about the meaning of a simpler life and how to navigate the complexities of money in the present as the cost of living continues to rise all around us. As a result, Dan shares his journey of transitioning from being a writer to becoming a psychotherapist, reflecting on feeling cornered in his career well after middle age, and the fear of not being able to provide for his family. If you’ve ever felt alone in struggling with an uncertain future, this episode of 50 Fires is a reminder that none of us have to be alone in that struggle. 

Read Dan’s article from Psychotherapy Networker “Action Man Meets Therapy Guy” 

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Journalist and Adventure Writer Daniel Duane on Changing Course and Becoming a Therapist in His Mid-50s

Podcaster, Author, and Financial Journalist Farnoosh Torabi discusses the impact of her parents’ approach to money growing up as a first generation Iranian family in Massachusetts, and how the gender dynamics of their relationship impacted her at an early age. She reflects on how her childhood experiences shaped her perception of money and the importance of finding financial autonomy in her own marriage. Farnoosh also reveals some of the most impactful paradigm shifts around money that she’s learned on her podcast So Money - approaching it’s 10th year of release with over 1,600 episodes. 
Follow and Listen to So Money on Apple Podcasts and Spotify Podcasts 
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Farnoosh Torabi - What her parents taught her about money, and why she’s the (proud) breadwinner in her own marriage

Comedian Pete Holmes reflects on his relationship with money and how it relates to his sense of freedom, creativity, and play.  In this wide ranging conversation, Carl and Pete explore how money impacts our anxiety, and the role that spirituality plays in helping to reduce that tension. From Pete’s early days in standup comedy, to his eventual success as a writer, actor, and podcaster, this episode highlights the importance of understanding and deepening our values during each phase of life, and remembering to stop and laugh as much as we can along the way.

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Comedian Pete Holmes on Freedom and Creativity with Money

On this week’s episode of 50 Fires, Carl keeps things in the family by having a discussion about money with his oldest daughter, Lindsay Richards. 
Lindsay is a 27-year old finance professional living in New York City, and as the oldest of 4 kids, she has a lot of perspective on how her parents handled money as she and her siblings grew up. From her earliest memory of money (“Mom wouldn’t let me touch coins because they’re dirty”) to reflecting on the ways money was treated and discussed in their home, this conversation is packed with insights on how to use simple questions to learn about your kids and how they view money. 
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Understanding Our Money Decisions With UCLA Professor Hal Hershfield

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