Understanding the Human Condition

Brenda Valiente is a nonprofit leader dedicated to the advancement of all people and transforming society into a place without poverty and homelessness. With her leadership and passion for serving the women and children of Miriam’s House, Brenda has helped expand the base of support for the organization and helped provide a safe, sober home for more than 350 families.

Today, Brenda joins the show to share the origin story of Miriam’s House as well as some of the amazing success stories she’s had the privilege of witnessing during her time there. Brenda speaks to her own experience becoming a mother, upcoming charity events and how others can help support Miriam’s House.

01:39 – Brenda Valiente joins the show to share her passion for serving the women and children of Miriam’s House and how she went from volunteer to Executive Director

05:16 – The origin story of Miriam’s House

08:32 – Brenda shares a particular success story she’s proud of during her time at Miriam’s House

13:07 – The financial needs of Miriam’s House and how listeners can help support the inspiring work they do

17:51 – Brenda reflects on recently becoming a mother

18:35 – Polo in the Palisades

22:54 – How can listeners donate to Miriam’s House

24:45 – Dr. Flowers thanks Brenda for joining today’s show and lets listeners know where they can learn more about Miriam’s House and donate

“Coming into Miriam’s House and just seeing this home where women can come with their children when they need help in recovery - when they have problematic substance abuse - get housing and then get recovery services, social services, childcare, healthcare, just anything you can think of that any mom would need. But, this is for women specifically in recovery, and it’s all over the place.” (04:27) (Brenda)

“Lisa and her husband sold Promises Treatment Centers and left the organization as well, but the program was started. And so, Patricia stepped in as a Board Member. Bryan Moeller went from being a Board Member to being Chairman at the time. And it was just for a long time just a dream of keeping this place open that they saw helps women. Even today, almost fifteen years later, there are no programs like Miriam’s House.” (06:32) (Brenda)

“There’s just all these safe spaces with trained staff to make sure that moms can visit their kids. When you’re separated from your children and you’re trying to get visitations, even just getting to the place where you can visit your children is a struggle.” (14:59) (Brenda)

“Miriam’s House you can make a donation to online at www.miriamshousela.org. You can do an online donation, but there’s also a mailing address there where you can mail a check. You can buy a ticket to Polo and join us on that beautiful sunny day if you’re on the West Side.” (23:03) (Brenda)

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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Brenda’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendavaliente/

Miriam’s House – https://www.miriamshousela.org/

Miriam’s House Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/miriams.house/

Miriam’s House Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/people/Miriams-House/100005313528397/

Polo in the Palisades – https://www.miriamshousela.org/events-2-EGcoI/polo-in-the-palisades

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Dr. Harvey Rosenstock has practiced psychiatry for more than sixty years. He also became an ordained rabbi at the tender age of 73. Daniel Shepley is currently a contract specialist for the United States Navy, has two degrees from Penn State, and is the author of The Other Side of Sanity.

Today, they both join Dr. James Flowers to share the incredible story of how they entered each other’s lives, what inspired Dr. Harvey to pursue psychiatry and why comprehensive diagnostic evaluations are key to healing.

Key Takeaways

01:28 – Dr Harvey Rosenstock and Daniel Shepley join the show to share the incredible story of how they met and how they established a therapeutic alliance

09:34 – The importance of trust

13:21 – A passive-aggressive upbringing

16:57 – How Dr. Harvey and Daniel’s relationship has evolved over the years

19:05 – What inspired Dr. Harvey to pursue psychiatry

23:17 – What was different about Dr. Harvey’s relationship with Daniel

29:24 – Why nothing is impossible

33:59 – What the future holds for Daniel

35:23 – Dr. Flowers thanks Dr. Rosenstock and Daniel for joining today’s show and ends with some words on Comprehensive Diagnostic Evaluations

Resources Mentioned

J. Flowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com

J. Flowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 715-1618

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Daniel’s Book – https://www.amazon.com/Other-Side-Sanity-Daniel-Shepley/dp/1732978700

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests is their opinion and is not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Lacey Tezino is an experienced technology leader with a passion for promoting healthier mother-daughter relationships. Lacey believes that technology can be used in beautiful ways to enhance our lives and make mental health care more accessible and convenient. She has worked as the Director of IT and Clinical Applications Manager for the Menninger Clinic, one of the top 10 psychiatric hospitals in the country.

Today, Lacey joins the show to speak to the work she is currently doing pouring every creative ounce into the success of Passport Journeys, a company focused on the mother-daughter relationship through teletherapy, live events and more.

Key Takeaways

01:24 – Lacey discusses how Passport Journeys is redefining mother-daughter relationships through its app

04:50 – The inspiration behind Passport Journeys and the unique aspects of mother-daughter dynamics

07:38 – How the pandemic accelerated the adoption of teletherapy for Lacey and her business

09:56 – A heartfelt story about Lacey’s relationship with her mother

15:53 – Growing up in a predominantly white neighborhood in Texas and its impact on Lacey’s journey

18:59 – The future vision for Passport Journeys

20:33 – Where Lacey sees herself and her business in five years

21:25 – Dr. Flowers wraps up the episode with gratitude and shares how listeners can connect with Lacey and learn more about Passport Journeys

Connect with Lacey & Passport Journeys

Lacey’s LinkedIn

Lacey’s Instagram

Passport Journeys Website

Passport Journeys Facebook

Passport Journeys Instagram

Passport Journeys LinkedIn

Resources Mentioned

J. Flowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

J. Flowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 715-1618

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**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests is their opinion and is not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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In this episode, Dr. James Flowers welcomes to the show his fellow founder and Leadership Team at J. Flowers Health Institute. Robbin Mooney, Michael Beard, Dr. Melanie Somerville, and Shay Butts join the show to share the work they each do to make JFlowers one of the most reputable names in mental health and addiction treatment.

Key Takeaways

01:30 – Dr. Flowers introduces the Leadership Team: Robbin Mooney, Michael Beard, Dr. Melanie Somerville, and Shay Butts

02:36 – Robbin Mooney shares her journey into recovery and mental health care

05:25 – Michael Beard discusses his background as an interventionist and his calming influence on patients

08:27 – Dr. Melanie Somerville reflects on her passion for mental healthcare

11:02 – Chief Experience Officer Shay Butts talks about how she joined the team

16:36 – Comparing traditional approaches to mental health with the J. Flowers method

19:28 – The role of diversity at J. Flowers Health Institute and across Houston

20:13 – Addressing long-term COVID complications at J. Flowers Health Institute

22:01 – Dr. Melanie explains what goes into creating a clear diagnosis

23:26 – Michael speaks to the familial culture fostered at J. Flowers Health Institute

26:18 – Dr. Flowers wraps up by thanking Robbin, Michael, Dr. Melanie, and Shay for joining

LinkedIn Profiles

Robbin Mooney

Dr. Melanie Somerville

Shay Butts

Resources Mentioned

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 715-1618

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**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests is their opinion and is not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Moe Schlachter is a registered nutritionist and dietician who obtained his Masters of Nutrition degree at Texas Woman’s University. He is a Certified Diabetes Care and Education Specialist (CDCES formerly known as CDE). Moe has been recognized by the Texas Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics as Young Dietician of the Year in 2015 and with the Dietician in Media Award in 2020.

Today, he joins the show to discuss the connection between sleep and nutrition and recommendations for balancing the two in order to achieve sound mental health.

01:25 – Moe Schlachter joins the show to discuss the relationship between nutrition and sleep

03:20 – Sleep disturbance, melatonin, and tryptophan

08:11 – Why it’s difficult to pinpoint or zero in on one food or nutrient to improve sleep

09:31 – Sleep and nutrition in adolescence

10:51 – Separating food from sleep and a healthy cutoff time for caffeine

13:30 – Foods to avoid and foods that help with inflammation issues

14:44 – How to recognize disordered eating

16:22 – Advice for new parents looking to improve their sleep

17:35 – Sleep debt and catching up on sleep

18:39 – Recommendations for balancing sleep, nutrition and mental health

21:19 – Dr. Flowers thanks Moe for joining today’s show to share his expertise and let’s listeners know where they can connect with him

“About seventy million people in this country have some kind of sleep deficiency. And the cost is really really big. It can contribute to heart disease, kidney disease, diabetes, stroke. It affects mood, productivity, and safety. So, sleep is super important.” (02:57) (Moe Schlachter)

“Valerian is another nutrient that is an extract from a root that can help us fall asleep and increase our sleep quality. Ashwagandha is a supplement that can help us improve sleep as well. Foods like cherries and kiwis have different chemicals that help us boost production of melatonin and can help us fall asleep too.” (07:29) (Moe Schlachter)

“When it comes to nutrition science, it’s sometimes difficult to isolate specific nutrients or foods just because we, as a being, rely on so many different nutrients to support life function. So, if we’re trying to zero in on sleep and isolate those nutrients, we can’t really control other nutrients we need for other life functions. So, it can be tricky to try to zero in on one food because there isn’t really the science of just focusing on one thing.” (08:21) (Moe Schlachter)

“I would say you should cut off caffeine by about 1pm or so if you’re finding that caffeine is keeping you up. But, if you’re ok with it and it isn’t interrupting your sleep then caffeine shouldn’t be a detractor for you.” (13:15) (Moe Schlachter)

“When there’s disordered eating, there’s also disordered sleep. It’s a cycle. Starvation makes it harder to sleep. There’s more anxiety. There’s less restfulness. There’s less relaxation. And that promotes even more anxiety which makes it harder and harder to eat. It’s a cycle that devolves.” (15:21) (Moe Schlachter)

“You cannot correct for a long pattern of chronic sleep deficiency, whether it’s caused by a condition or caused by not setting the right regiment or rules for yourself. It’s something that, over time, the effects can accumulate.” (18:05) (Moe Schlachter)

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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Moe’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/moe-schlachter/

Moe’s Email – [email protected]

Houston Family Nutrition – https://houstonfamilynutrition.com/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Caring for someone with any chronic disease or mental illness can take an emotional and even physical toll on caretakers. And many times, that investment can lead caregivers to lose sight of their own needs in the service of another’s care.

As a clinician and former caregiver, Dr. Frank Chen discusses how family members can be intrinsic and critical parts of a loved one’s diagnosis and treatment journey. Also, support and coping strategies are needed if everyone is to effectively emerge throughout the process. In this podcast, we discuss the definition of compassion fatigue, and how it affects caregivers – professional and family members – and what the caregiver can do to take good care of themselves.

01:27 – Dr. Frank Chen joins the show to share what drew him to the field of psychiatry and his difficult experience seeking help for a member of his family

12:57 – Compassion fatigue explained

18:39 – Shay opens up about her own experience acting as a caregiver in her family

20:41 – Advice on caring for yourself as a caregiver

27:14 – The value of speaking to a therapist and other practical self-care acts you can do

34:13 – Shay thanks Dr. Frank for sharing his story

“There’s a very regimented path forward when you get into Med School. And it always seemed like it was very difficult to break away from that. And I think that part of this unconscious conflict that I experienced was probably what ended up attracting me to the field of psychiatry - to kind of conquer this conflict, if you will. I know now that in order to conquer this conflict, you get a good therapist.” (05:43) (Dr. Frank Chen)

“This is why I encourage anyone who has these intrapsychic conflicts to start seeing a therapist. Having someone out there to help you navigate through those struggles and know what’s norm and what’s not norm may build a much more secure self.” (07:14) (Dr. Frank Chen)

“When you stop taking care of yourself, you may actually not be doing your family member any justice in terms of trying to help them, because you’re gonna get depressed. You’re gonna end up getting anxious. You’re gonna end up not being able to help.” (13:51) (Dr. Frank Chen)

“Being a caretaker takes a toll.” (17:55) (Dr. Frank Chen)

“So, that’s really important to be able to recognize other people not trying to be critical of you but to give you some warning that, ‘Hey, you’re not acting like yourself.’ And be able to take that feedback and not get so defensive about it but do something about it.” (26:31) (Dr. Frank Chen)

“You wouldn’t try to fix a car with black smoke coming out of the tailpipe. It’s a fairly complex job. So why would you try to fix mental health issues.” (34:34) (Dr. Frank Chen)

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Clinician, best-selling author, keynote speaker and interventionist, Dr. Louise Stanger joins today’s show to share the work she’s doing to help others through strength-based solutions and invitational change. Dr. Louise takes the audience through a typical intervention at her clinic, All About Interventions, and speaks to her mission to effect systemic change in the world of mental health. Dr. Louise opens up about dealing with the complexities of family dynamics and relationships and the approaches she utilizes to help them heal.

01:24 – Dr. Louise Stanger shares her passion for service and mentoring others

08:01 – Transitioning from professor to interventionist

14:43 – Dr. Louise takes the audience through her typical intervention process at All About Interventions

20:38 – Dealing with the complexities of family relationships

25:53 – Family Mapping and Dr. Louise’s latest book, Addiction in the Family

30:47 – Dr. Flowers thanks Dr. Louise for joining the show and for the inspiring work she continues to do

“I don’t think, for me, I could ever stop working if I can ever still be of service or a mentor to others.” (03:50) (Dr. Louise)

“I really believe that collaboration is the key. If you’re talking about interventions, I always work with other talented team members. I don’t do them alone because I make no pretense that someone may fall in love with someone else or bond better with someone else. And that’s the way we help move them to change. And, because we deal with such complex families with such high-intensity problems, you need more than one person.” (14:10) (Dr. Louise)

“And then we did some incredible family work in your offices where I’ll never forget it because it changed their trajectory because what was happening was there was so much unresolved grief and guilt over the loss of a loved one. While we were sitting here, an eagle soared by. And, in that moment, that family got forgiveness, got transformation, and started on a different trajectory.” (19:34) (Dr. Louise)

“An intervention is somewhat like a living eulogy. And you want to make sure that you do that correctly. And you want to give that family who’s been struggling the right tools so they can thrive.” (22:30) (Dr. Louise)

“Ninety-seven percent of the work upfront for an intervention is done with those people [family and friends] because the person who is experiencing the substance use disorder, or the mental health disorder, or the chronic pain, or the process disorder, they’re going to keep doing what they’re doing until these people change how they behave.” (25:31) (Dr. Louise)

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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Dr. Louise’s Website – https://www.allaboutinterventions.com/

Dr. Louise’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlouisestanger/

Dr. Louise’s YouTube Video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDf5262P7I8

Dr. Louise’s Number – (619) 507-1699

Look for Dr. Louise’s Interview on Katie Couric’s Podcast ‘Next Question’ – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-question-with-katie-couric/id1134154895

Dr. Louise’s Books:

Falling Up – https://www.amazon.com/Falling-Up-Renewal-Louise-Stanger/dp/0996761403/ref=asc_df_0996761403/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312111908051&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6892952231872809156&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004216&hvtargid=pla-568553026293&psc=1

Addiction In The Family – https://www.amazon.com/Addiction-Family-Families-Navigate-Challenges/dp/164739225X/ref=asc_df_164739225X/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459417506313&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16397276531253133357&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004216&hvtargid=pla-985817256399&psc=1

Learn to Thrive (Free Download) – https://www.allaboutinterventions.com/learn-to-thrive/

Silver Tsunami (Free Download) – https://www.allaboutinterventions.com/aging-and-addiction/

The Definitive Guide to Addiction Intervention: A Collective Strategy – https://www.allaboutinterventions.com/books/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are of their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Actor and comedian Marlon Wayans joins today’s show to discuss his recent shift to more dramatic roles in television and film, including Respect and Bel-Air. Marlon opens up about past trauma and how he has channeled that trauma into his comedy. Marlon also talks about mental health, the value he gets from therapy, and why acceptance is the ultimate expression of love.

Key Takeaways:

01:15 – Actor and comedian Marlon Wayans talks about his recent dramatic roles and shares his thoughts on the Chris Rock-Will Smith moment at the Oscars

06:31 – How trauma shapes comedy

08:57 – Marlon shares the experience of his daughter coming out to him and his family

13:01 – Marlon discusses some of his upcoming projects and discusses why therapy has been so important in his life

15:53 – Dr. Flowers thanks Marlon for joining the show and for the great work he continues to do

Tweetable Quotes

“I think a lot of great comedians make for great actors. The skill set you have to have as a comedian comes from such a dark place, right? You have this skill set to take something so dark and find something funny about it. It doesn’t mean that you don’t deal with that pain, you just go, ‘Ok, what’s funny about it?’” (02:10) (Marlon)

“You know, in our neighborhood we grew up poor in the projects with all these characters around us. People that were in and out of jail, crackheads, dudes on the corners, drug dealers. And we’ve seen all of that and we were the class clowns. That was our gift in the community was to make people laugh.” (06:49) (Marlon)

“Acceptance is the greatest love you can have.” (09:57) (Marlon)

“I go to therapy. I have a therapist. I try to go weekly or monthly, but I’m always so busy. But when I feel it, I know I gotta unpack. And we sit down and we talk. Sometimes you just need to talk it out and that’s important even for myself because insanity is everywhere.” (14:42) (Marlon)

Resources Mentioned:

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 715-1618

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Marlon’s IMDB Page – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005541/

Marlon’s Website – https://www.marlonwayansofficial.com/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests is of their opinion and is not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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Trevor Shevin gets vulnerable and opens up about his personal journey to recovery while speaking about the work he’s doing to help others as a certified interventionist professional. Trevor is the Principal and Founder of Sterling Recovery Services, a highly specialized team whose clients suffer from a wide variety of serious conditions, including alcoholism, drug addiction, and eating and mental health disorders, among others. Today, Dr. Flowers and Trevor discuss The Dogaholix, The United Intervention Services, and what it means to build authentic relationships.

Key Takeaways:

04:00 – Trevor Shevin opens up about his own journey to recovery and talks about the mission and vision of Sterling Recovery Services

09:43 – Building authentic relationships

10:42 – Trevor speaks to his passion for helping others and the work he’s doing at The Dogaholix & The United Intervention Services

14:22 – Describing the process of an intervention

20:09 – Why the best gifts come in poorly wrapped packages

22:46 – Dr. Flowers thanks Trevor for his vulnerability and his time and lets listeners know where they can learn more about Sterling Recovery Services

Tweetable Quotes:

“Back in 2017, I started a company called Sterling Recovery Services. We’re headquartered in Greenwich, Connecticut. We help families all over the world, mostly in the U.S. and London. We do everything from interventions to intensive case management to advisory and consultative services.” (07:54) (Trevor)

“You know, I’ve been very blessed to have a nice career, and I’m on the board of the NCADD of Westchester. I try to join nonprofit boards where I can and help less fortunate people. When I got into this field, I wanted to help anybody, whether it was inner city kids or whoever it might be.” (11:05) (Trevor)

“[In our interventions] There’s no shaming. There’s no blaming. There’s nothing punitive. It’s all protecting them from themselves and trying to reach their hearts to get them to understand the ripple effect.” (16:47) (Trevor)

“My ability, I think, to connect with people and have empathy and compassion is a direct byproduct of things I’ve been through.” (20:32) (Trevor)

Resources Mentioned:

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 715-1618

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Trevor’s Cell Number –(917) 653-3899

Trevor’s Email – [email protected]

Trevor’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevorshevin/

Sterling Recovery Services Website – https://www.sterlingrecovery.com/

Sterling Recovery Services Phone Number – (800) 807-8213

Link to Dogaholix – https://dogaholix.org/board-members/

Link to The NCADD – http://www.ncaddwestchester.org/

Link to the Williamsburg House – https://williamsburghousenyc.com/

Link to The United Intervention Services – https://unitedintervention.com/

**The views and opinions expressed by our guests are those of the individual and do not necessarily reflect those of J. Flowers Health Institute. Any content provided by our co-host(s) or guests are their opinion and are not intended to reflect the philosophy and policies of J. Flowers Health Institute itself. Nor is it intended to malign any recovery method, religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything.

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