unDUBBED

In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Sarah Burnett and Fiona Crocker sit down with Craig Turrell, Head of AI and Design at Standard Chartered Bank, to unpack the realities of enterprise AI transformation.  

From the concept of AI native architecture to the gap between AI hype and real-world adoption, Craig shares hard-won insights from decades at the cutting edge of AI, machine learning, and data science. In this episode, we explore how enterprises can unlock the real potential of AI by shifting the way they think about technology, failure, and decision-making. The conversation starts with the idea that machines are shaped by how they’re trained and interacted with - which can affect performance, accuracy, and trust.  

We dig into why embracing failure is critical for innovation, and how rapid, low-cost experimentation changes the game for enterprises that once saw failure as too expensive. The discussion moves through the pipeline of data → knowledge → insight → decision, highlighting how literacy is often the missing piece in driving action.  

The episode also uncovers the symbiotic relationship between AI and BI, showing why they’re stronger together, and explores the push toward 99% machine reasoning with just 1% human oversight. From the 80/20 rule of AI adoption, to the cultural tendencies of different models, to building trust frameworks through blockchain, this is a practical look at how enterprises can move beyond hype and scale AI with confidence.  

If you’re navigating the challenges of AI adoption, leadership in data-driven organisations, or the next wave of business intelligence, this conversation is packed with takeaways you can apply today.

Book a free 30 minute session with us and we can get a better understanding of what it is that you’re trying to achieve.

00:00 Introduction to Enterprise AI Transformation

01:40 Craig Turrell's Journey in AI and Innovation

05:17 The Hype Cycle and Reality of AI Implementation

09:10 Understanding Machine Communication and Interaction

12:46 Exploring Machine Personalities and Cultural Influences

18:31 AI Transformations in Banking: A Case Study

26:04 Navigating Innovation in a Regulated Environment

36:17 The Power of Language in Business Communication

37:14 Acceptance of AI in Leadership

39:14 Generative Intelligence vs. Traditional Business Intelligence

40:48 The Importance of Storytelling in Data

42:56 Data Literacy and Its Impact on Decision Making

45:30 Personalizing Business Intelligence for Diverse Needs

46:38 The Future of Business Intelligence

53:54 Leadership and Team Dynamics in the Age of AI

01:01:20 Cultivating a Learning Culture in Organisations

AI, enterprise AI, AI native architecture, machine learning, data science, banking innovation, leadership in AI, business intelligence, cultural influences on AI, AI communication.

In this thought-provoking episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fiona Crocker and Sarah Burnett sit down with Dr. Mark Powell - psychologist, bestselling author of The Mind Beyond the Machine, global keynote speaker, and Head of Private Cloud Data Delivery at Standard Chartered Bank - to explore the powerful intersection of AI, psychology, human behaviour, and leadership.

Mark brings a rare blend of cutting-edge technology strategy and human-first leadership, shaped by decades of leading billion-dollar tech transformations and a deep understanding of how mindset and behaviour influence success. Together, we unpack how AI reflects human consciousness, why our fears often say more about us than the technology, and how leaders can adapt, evolve, and thrive in a rapidly changing world.

00:00 Introduction to Undubbed Podcast

01:25 Mark Powell's Journey: From Psychology to Tech Transformation

08:53 The Writing Process: A Human Perspective on AI

13:14 Navigating Anxiety in the Age of AI

25:59 Authenticity and Human Contribution in a Tech-Driven World

33:14 The Importance of Listening and Communication

34:13 Navigating the Chaos of Learning

36:49 Change Management and Self-Improvement

38:44 The Power of Mindset and Reframing

42:31 Ethics and Accountability in AI

48:47 Teaching Machines: Understanding vs. Remixing Noise

58:28 Building AI: Escaping Limits or Understanding Them?

01:01:18 Embracing Opportunity in a Messy World

Connect with Mark: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markpowellpsy/

Mark’s website: https://www.markpowellonline.com/

Buy Mark’s Book: The Mind Beyond the Machine

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AI, psychology, technology transformation, human behavior, ethics, leadership, change management, authenticity, data, growth mindset

In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Sarah Burnett and Fi Crocker sit down with Brian Tancock, Partner at Neurodiverse You, for a powerful and eye-opening conversation about neurodiversity in the workplace.

Brian shares his personal journey from international banking across London, Singapore, and Hong Kong to becoming a leading neurodiversity advocate and mental health supporter. Drawing from his lived experience with ADHD, Brian unpacks the challenges neurodivergent professionals face in today’s work environments - from rigid hiring processes and communication barriers to leadership blind spots that impact team performance.

You’ll learn practical, actionable strategies for inclusive leadership, creating supportive workplace cultures, and tailoring recruitment and management practices to unlock the potential of diverse minds. This discussion is a must-listen for leaders, managers, HR professionals, and anyone in the data and analytics community committed to building truly inclusive teams. If you value workplace inclusion, mental health awareness, and neurodiversity advocacy, hit LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and share this episode with colleagues.

To explore how Dub Dub Data can help your organisation build an inclusive, data-driven culture, visit us at https://www.dubdubdata.com/

Neurodiversity is relevant in various professional fields.

Personal experiences shape our understanding of workplace dynamics.

Transitioning careers can lead to new opportunities for growth.

Empathy and understanding are crucial in workplace interactions.

Communication styles must be adapted for neurodiverse individuals.

Inclusive hiring practices benefit organizations as a whole.

Leaders should foster open communication and trust with their teams.

Mental health support is essential for all employees.

Recognizing individual backstories can enhance workplace culture.

Small accommodations can lead to significant improvements in productivity.

Neurodiverse You: https://neurodiverseyou.com

Connect with Brian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briantancock/

00:00 Introduction to Neurodiversity in Business

01:08 Brian Tancock's Journey from Banking to Neurodiversity

04:01 Transitioning to a Supportive Environment

06:27 Understanding Neurodiversity and Its Impact

08:36 Navigating Workplace Challenges

11:33 The Role of Organizations in Supporting Neurodiversity

13:12 The Importance of Communication and Support

15:55 Addressing Undiagnosed Neurodiversity

17:53 Creating Inclusive Workplaces

20:21 The Future of Neurodiversity in Business

31:27 Building a Culture of Listening

33:07 Inclusive Hiring Practices

36:14 Flexibility in the Workplace

40:06 Communication and Leadership

43:10 Understanding Employee Needs

45:54 Creating Safe Spaces for Conversations

49:43 Cultural Sensitivity in Neurodiversity

53:09 The Impact of Leadership on Neurodiverse Employees

57:30 Adapting Communication Styles

01:02:00 Reflection and Growth in Leadership

01:03:21 The Importance of Inquiring About Backstories

neurodiversity, workplace, mental health, inclusivity, leadership, hiring practices, communication, support strategies

In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Sarah and Fiona sit down with Dr Selena Fisk, author of I Am Not a Numbers Person, to unpack the widespread issue of data anxiety and the growing need for data literacy and data fluency in today’s data-saturated world. Together, they explore how societal beliefs around numbers and maths anxiety can undermine data-informed decision-making, and why building confidence with data is essential for individuals at every level.

The conversation dives into key concepts like curiosity in data, the dangers of confirmation bias, and the power of triangulating multiple data sources to uncover reliable insights. Selena also highlights the importance of developing a data culture and fostering data conversations that bridge the gap between data analysts and business stakeholders.

Through the lens of data democratisation, the trio discuss practical strategies for making data accessible, understandable, and actionable across organisations. They emphasise the role of data storytelling, critical thinking, and the shift from being data-driven to being truly data-informed.

The episode wraps up with a forward-looking discussion on the evolution of data literacy programs, and how teams can build habits around using pre-decision and post-decision data to evaluate impact and drive continuous improvement.  

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00:00 Introduction to Data Anxiety and Literacy

01:57 Challenging the 'Not a Numbers Person' Mindset

04:32 Understanding Data in Everyday Life

05:18 The Importance of Active Data Engagement

07:21 Triangulating Data for Better Decision Making

15:23 Overcoming Confirmation Bias in Data Analysis

19:22 The Role of Givers in Data Education

21:18 Fostering Data Democracy in Organisations

24:35 Aligning Organisational Goals with Data Metrics

26:26 The Importance of Being Data Informed

31:51 Navigating Data Literacy Challenges

32:06 Examples of Successful Data Transformation

42:34 The Role of Post-Decision Data

44:20 Quick Fire Insights on Data Practices

data literacy, data anxiety, decision making, triangulating data, confirmation bias, data democratisation, data informed, data driven, data storytelling, financial literacy

In this episode of unDUBBED, Darragh Murray, a Senior Analytics and Insight Specialist, explores the integration of AI with data visualisation tools like Tableau. The discussion centres on Model Context Protocol (MCP), which allows users to query Tableau Cloud data using natural language using Claude, and demonstrate its capabilities through a live demo (so it’s best viewed on video).

You'll see Claude build its own interactive data viz, where things go wrong, and where it gets it right. The conversation delves into the future of business intelligence, the potential impact of AI on data analysis, and the evolving role of data professionals in this landscape.

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Brian Julius LinkedIn

00:00 Introduction to the Episode

00:22 Introduction to AI and Data Analytics

01:45 Understanding Model Context Protocol (MCP)

04:46 Live Demo of AI Querying Tableau Cloud

10:12 Exploring the Future of Data Interaction

16:03 Security and Governance in AI Data Queries

17:06 Introduction and Technical Issues

18:51 Exploring Data Visualisation with AI

21:00 Understanding Charting Techniques

22:48 Evaluating AI-Generated Visualisations

24:51 Cognitive Load and User Preferences

26:31 The Future of Data Visualisation and AI

28:27 Exploring Data Visualisation Techniques

29:07 Demonstrating AI in Data Analysis

31:34 Integrating Visualisations with AI

33:20 Evaluating AI's Performance in Data Tasks

39:32 The Future of Business Intelligence with AI

43:07 Rapid Fire Insights on AI Usage

AI, Tableau, Model Context Protocol, Data Visualisation, Business Intelligence, Analytics, Claude AI, Data Analysis, MCP, Future of Data

In this episode of Data unDUBBED, Sarah and Fiona engage with Matthew Miller, Senior Director of Product Management at Tableau, discussing the intersection of storytelling and data. Matthew shares his journey into the data world, the importance of storytelling in product management, and how it has influenced his career. The conversation also touches on innovations at Tableau, the role of AI in data, and the behind-the-scenes of the popular Devs on Stage event at Tableau Conference. Matthew emphasizes the need for understanding audience motivations and the power of repetition in storytelling, providing valuable insights for anyone looking to improve their storytelling skills in the data space.

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Follow Matthew Miller on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewmarkmiller/

00:00 Introduction to Matthew Miller and Tableau

04:30 The Power of Storytelling in Data

07:49 Matthew's Journey into Data

09:52 AI and the Future of Data

11:57 Matthew's Early Days with Tableau

14:41 Innovations and Contributions at Tableau

19:07 The Role of Storytelling in Career Growth

25:55 Influencing Product Strategy at Tableau

35:38 Lessons Learned from Starting a Business

37:59 The Importance of Mentorship and Team Dynamics

38:57 Lessons from Failure: The Impact of Co-founders

40:20 Striving for Excellence in Business

42:52 Behind the Scenes of Devs on Stage

50:23 The Art of Public Speaking and Developer Confidence

54:57 Community Engagement through Devs on Stage

57:01 Quick Fire Tips for Storytelling with Data

data storytelling, Tableau, Matthew Miller, product management, AI, data community, storytelling techniques, executive influence, Devs on Stage, data products

In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fiona Gordon and Sarah Burnett explore the Consultant's Toolkit for the Modern Analyst with data experts Chris Love and Carl Allchin. They discuss their journeys into consulting, the evolution of data visualization tools like Tableau, the impact of AI on data roles, and the importance of asking the right questions in consulting. The conversation also touches on learning from data disasters, the necessity of curiosity and bravery in data analysis, and the future of data preparation with Informatica's acquisition by Salesforce.

00:00 Welcome to Undubbed

02:17 The Consultant's Journey

07:20 Early Days with Tableau

12:13 The Evolution of Data Consulting

16:12 AI and the Future of Data

25:01 Consulting Skills for Success

27:22 Transforming Presentations into Conversations

31:14 The Art of Asking Questions

34:40 Navigating Data Disasters

39:55 Pushing Back Against Pressure

45:34 Curiosity and Bravery in Consulting

47:52 The Future of Data Preparation

53:19 The Impact of Informatica Acquisition

data consulting, Tableau, AI in analytics, data visualization, consulting skills, data ethics, data disasters, data preparation, analytics tools, data storytelling

In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Sarah and Fiona engage with data experts Eva Murray and Andy Kriebel to explore how to future-proof a data career. They discuss the importance of continuous learning, the impact of AI on data roles, and the necessity of investing in people within organizations. The conversation also touches on the significance of soft skills, the journey from good to great in Tableau, and the role of mentoring and empathy in professional development. Listeners are encouraged to take actionable steps to enhance their careers and embrace the evolving landscape of data.

Andy’s Linkedin -https://www.linkedin.com/in/andykriebel/

Eva’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evamurray1

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00:00 Introduction to Future-Proofing Data Careers

02:59 Navigating Career Changes and Building Networks

05:00 The Impact of AI on Data Roles

08:04 Soft Skills vs. Technical Skills in Data Careers

10:47 Rediscovering Passion in Data Work

13:40 The Importance of Continuous Learning

15:47 Investing in Employee Development

18:36 The Role of Managers in Career Growth

20:04 Identifying Great Tableau Users

21:49 The Balance of Soft and Technical Skills

29:19 The Role of Evangelism in Data Careers

33:13 Mentorship and Personal Growth

38:25 Future-Proofing Your Data Career

47:58 Coaching for Career Advancement

data career, future-proofing, AI in data, Tableau, mentoring, career coaching, investing in people, data roles, soft skills, professional development

In this episode of unDUBBED, hosts Fiona and Sarah engage with Kathryn McCrindle, an analytics consultant and Iron Viz finalist, to explore her journey into data visualization, the challenges of participating in Iron Viz, and the importance of community support. Kathryn shares insights on overcoming imposter syndrome, the design process for her dashboard, and the lessons learned from presenting in front of a large audience. The conversation highlights the significance of feedback, iteration, and the rewarding nature of focusing on a single project.

• Kathryn turned data storytelling into an art form.

• Iron Viz participation motivated Kathryn to push her limits.

• The importance of community support in data visualization.

• Overcoming imposter syndrome is crucial for success.

• Focusing on one dashboard for a month is rewarding.

• Feedback is essential for improving visualization skills.

• Iterating designs can lead to better outcomes.

• The pressure of presenting can enhance focus.

• Learning from competition fosters growth in the community.

• Engaging with influential figures in the field is inspiring.

00:00 Guest intro - Iron Viz Finalist, Kathryn McCrindle

01:25 Kathryn's Journey into Data and Tableau

04:29 The Iron Viz Experience and Motivation

07:38 Designing for Iron Viz: Challenges and Inspirations

15:36 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and Embracing Feedback

20:38 Presentation Skills and Lessons Learned

23:33 Exploring Data Visualization Elements

26:12 Designing for Impact: The Art of Visualization

28:58 Navigating Competition: Insights from Iron Viz

32:51 Networking and Community in Data Visualization

37:35 Overcoming Challenges in Data Projects

data visualization, Iron Viz, Tableau, dashboard design, imposter syndrome, data storytelling, analytics, community support, presentation skills, visualization techniques

In this episode of unDUBBED, Sarah and Fi discuss the essential insights that non-data leaders should understand about data teams. They explore the evolving nature of data projects, the importance of clarity in dashboards, the misconception of dashboards as a comprehensive solution, the often invisible success of data teams, and the critical role of training in retaining talent and enhancing performance.