Desmond Tutu is an Anglican archbishop emeritus of Cape Town, South Africa and recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. He has written many books, including, “Made for Goodness: And Why This Makes All the Difference,” and “The Book of Forgiving.” This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode “Desmond Tutu — A God of Surprises.” Find more at onbeing.org.