“United Shades of America” host W. Kamau Bell joins to discuss the miserable job performance of the police, who are our employees! Also: how trauma can make you funnier and why marginalized folks have to have bigger and better imaginations than others.

For a transcript of this episode, please visit crooked.com/withfriendslikethese.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices